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* 2016 Kernel Summit Planning Kickoff
@ 2016-07-08 16:41 Theodore Ts'o
  2016-07-08 19:16 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Christian Borntraeger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Theodore Ts'o @ 2016-07-08 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, ksummit-discuss

		    Kernel Summit Planning Kickoff
		     Call for Topics / Attendees


The 16th annual Kernel Summit will be held October 31st through
November the 2nd, 2016, in Santa Fe, New Mexico, overlapping with the
Linux Plumbers Conference (LPC).

The format of the Kernel Summit will be:

* Monday: Invite-only core attendees' plenary sessions
* Tuesday: Workshops and breakout sessions (co-organized with LPC)
* Wednesday/Thursday: Technical Sessions

The Core plenary day will be focused on topics which are not
appropriate for any of the subsystem-specific workshops or
minisummits, and which cannot be easily resolved using the normal
e-mail and IRC channels.  These include issues about our overall
development process and topics which span multiple subsystems.

The workshops are intended for kernel subsystem developers or the
handling of other topics needing an intensive half- or full-day
discussion.  There will also be a room for specialized discussions
that come up at the last minute, which will be scheduled in an
unconference style.

The technical sessions will be open to all kernel summit attendees to
discuss specific technical issues that would be easier to resolve in
person than over e-mail.  The program committee will also consider
"information sharing" topics if they are clearly of interest to the
wider development community (i.e., advanced training in topics that
would be useful for subsystem maintainers).  The technical sessions
will be taking place at the same time as LPC Miniconferences; we will
take care to minimize potential conflicts

The Plumbers Conference Miniconferences will be open to Kernel Summit
attendees, as will the various Plumbers social events.  (Sponsors from
the Kernel Summit and LPC will be co-sponsoring the reception on
Wednesday evening.)  Simiarly, the Kernel Summit technical sessions
will be open to LPC attendees (although they will not be able to
attend the invite-open sessions on Monday.)


For space reasons, we try to cap the attendance of the core plenary
day to around 80-100 people.  We have created an initial list of
nominations for that core plenary day, based on the top 3rd or 4th
percentile of commit authors or reviewers since the end of the last
kernel summit.  You can see that list here:

	https://goo.gl/79tJFx

Since it is a mechanically generated list, it's obviously going to be
incomplete.  So if you think that there are people who should be on
the list, you can nominate them (self nominations are ok) by sending a
note to the kernel summit discuss mailing list.  Please indicate what
you think they would be able to contribute by attending.

	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Please also let us know if you notice an obsolete or incorrect e-mail
address on the list.  You can either leave a comment on the
spreadsheet, or send a note to the ksummit-pc mailing list.

As in past years, people who are the first to suggest a particularly
interesting topic and/or who actively and positively engage in the
discussion of those topics will get special consideration by the
program committee.

If you would like to suggest a topic, please send a separate e-mail
for each topic, so we can more easily track the discussion, and please
tag your e-mail with [CORE TOPIC] or [TECH TOPIC] depending on whether
the topic would be a better fit for the Monday sessions or the
Wednesday sessions.  Also include a list of people who you think would
be valuable in participating in the discussion. 

If possible, please send topic proposals as soon as possible so we can
better coordinate with the Plumbers Conference, and certainly before
July 29th, since that's about when we will start evaluating the list
of potential attendees.

Obviously, if new topics come up after that, please still send them to
us!  For one thing, invites will be going out in stages.  For another,
we want to make sure the kernel summit will be as useful as possible,
and so if you think there's something that the kernel community needs
to consider, we'd like to know about it!


If you were not subscribed on to the kernel-discuss mailing list from
last year (or if you had removed yourself after the kernel summit),
you can subscribe to the discuss list using mailman:

   https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss

For reference, previous years' kernel summits were covered by LWN at:

   https://lwn.net/Articles/KernelSummit2015
   https://lwn.net/Articles/KernelSummit2014
   https://lwn.net/Articles/KernelSummit2013

If you are interested in leading one of the workshops on Tuesday,
please contact the kernel summit program committee with your proposal
at:

	ksummit-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org


The 2016 Kernel Summit Program Committee
========================================

Alan Cox
Shuah Khan
Jonathan Corbet
Greg Kroah-Hartman
Martin K. Petersen
Mel Gorman
Steven Rostedt
Paul McKenney
Theodore Ts'o
Grant Likely

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* Re: [Ksummit-discuss] 2016 Kernel Summit Planning Kickoff
  2016-07-08 16:41 2016 Kernel Summit Planning Kickoff Theodore Ts'o
@ 2016-07-08 19:16 ` Christian Borntraeger
  2016-07-08 22:06   ` Dmitry Torokhov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Christian Borntraeger @ 2016-07-08 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Theodore Ts'o, linux-kernel, ksummit-discuss

On 07/08/2016 06:41 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> 		    Kernel Summit Planning Kickoff
> 		     Call for Topics / Attendees
> 
> 
> The 16th annual Kernel Summit will be held October 31st through
> November the 2nd, 2016, in Santa Fe, New Mexico, overlapping with the
> Linux Plumbers Conference (LPC).
> 
> The format of the Kernel Summit will be:
> 
> * Monday: Invite-only core attendees' plenary sessions
> * Tuesday: Workshops and breakout sessions (co-organized with LPC)
> * Wednesday/Thursday: Technical Sessions

Last year we had the invite-only session on the 3rd day and what I heard
from some people that was considered better. People had a chance to 
already solve several things upfront and the invite-only day had less
issues to discuss. Not sure if this can be changed and if the majority
of people agree with that conclusion.

Christian

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* Re: [Ksummit-discuss] 2016 Kernel Summit Planning Kickoff
  2016-07-08 19:16 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Christian Borntraeger
@ 2016-07-08 22:06   ` Dmitry Torokhov
  2016-07-09 20:47     ` Theodore Ts'o
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2016-07-08 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Borntraeger; +Cc: Theodore Ts'o, lkml, ksummit-discuss

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Christian Borntraeger
<borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> On 07/08/2016 06:41 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>>                   Kernel Summit Planning Kickoff
>>                    Call for Topics / Attendees
>>
>>
>> The 16th annual Kernel Summit will be held October 31st through
>> November the 2nd, 2016, in Santa Fe, New Mexico, overlapping with the
>> Linux Plumbers Conference (LPC).
>>
>> The format of the Kernel Summit will be:
>>
>> * Monday: Invite-only core attendees' plenary sessions
>> * Tuesday: Workshops and breakout sessions (co-organized with LPC)
>> * Wednesday/Thursday: Technical Sessions
>
> Last year we had the invite-only session on the 3rd day and what I heard
> from some people that was considered better. People had a chance to
> already solve several things upfront and the invite-only day had less
> issues to discuss. Not sure if this can be changed and if the majority
> of people agree with that conclusion.

I think that only worked because Korea Linux Forum preceded KS so we
had shared talks first. We'd have to swap KS and Plumbers and I'd
guess it is too late now.

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

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* Re: [Ksummit-discuss] 2016 Kernel Summit Planning Kickoff
  2016-07-08 22:06   ` Dmitry Torokhov
@ 2016-07-09 20:47     ` Theodore Ts'o
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Theodore Ts'o @ 2016-07-09 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dmitry Torokhov; +Cc: Christian Borntraeger, lkml, ksummit-discuss

On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 03:06:07PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > Last year we had the invite-only session on the 3rd day and what I heard
> > from some people that was considered better. People had a chance to
> > already solve several things upfront and the invite-only day had less
> > issues to discuss. Not sure if this can be changed and if the majority
> > of people agree with that conclusion.
> 
> I think that only worked because Korea Linux Forum preceded KS so we
> had shared talks first. We'd have to swap KS and Plumbers and I'd
> guess it is too late now.

The Korea Linux Forum is a much shorter conference, so holding it
afterwards probably worked better.  With conferences that are longer
and/or more intense, we've gotten complaints from Kernel Summit
attendees that by the time the invite-only day happened at the
tail-end of the week meant that people were pretty brain-fried by
then.  This would have been especially true with the Linux Plumbers
Conference, which throws a very nice party at the very end of the
conference --- with an open bar, no less.  (What this might mean if we
tried to hold the Kernel Summit invite-only day afterwards is left to
imagination of the gentle reader.  :-)

People will be very much encouraged to stay for all of the Plumbers
Conference, and not just because the party at the end of the week.
There's no rule that says we have to make all of our decisions on the
invite-only day.  In fact, it may be good for decisions to be
discussed with the wider LPC community before we make a final
decision.  That's why we'll have spare slots in reserve for people to
schedule topic-specific discussions on Wednesday and Thursday.

Cheers,

					- Ted

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