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From: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
	mgalbraith@suse.de, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/13] sched: Store maximum per-cpu capacity in root domain
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 16:15:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160714151518.GD21816@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBDB0NoHsXyLLkh=4CWfaTiXcoo7TfuHQ_FenhmG9V-Yg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 03:25:36PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On 13 July 2016 at 18:37, Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 02:48:24PM +0100, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> >> On 13/07/16 13:40, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> >> > On 22 June 2016 at 19:03, Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com> wrote:
> >> >> From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> To be able to compare the capacity of the target cpu with the highest
> >> >> available cpu capacity, store the maximum per-cpu capacity in the root
> >> >> domain.
> >> >
> >> > I thought that the capacity of all CPUS were built so the highest
> >> > capacity of the CPU of the system is 1024  for big LITTLE system . So
> >> > this patch doesn't seem necessary for big.LITTLE system
> >>
> >> The asymmetric cpu capacity support currently only has an effect on arm
> >> big.LITTLE (32bit) using the existing 'struct cpu_efficiency
> >> table_efficiency[]' based approach.
> >
> > True for this patch set, but longer term and if you use the preview
> > branch mentioned in the cover letter Vincent is right. The idea is that
> > the highest capacity anywhere should be 1024.
> >
> > If we fix the arch/arm/kernel/topology.c code at the same time we could
> > kill this patch.
> >
> > However, even further down the road we might need it (or something
> > similar) anyway due to the thermal framework. At some point we would
> > like to adjust the max capacity based any OPP constraints imposed by the
> > thermal framework. In extreme cases big cpus might be capped so hard
> > that they effectively have smaller capacity than little. I don't think
> > it makes sense to re-normalize everything to the highest available
> > capacity to ensure that there is always a cpu with capacity = 1024 in
> > the system, instead we must be able to cope with scenarios where max
> > capacity is smaller than 1024.
> 
> Yes we will have to found a solution for thermal mitigation but i
> don't know if a rd->max_cpu_capacity would the best solution

Agreed, I'm pretty sure that the current form isn't sufficient.

> >
> > Also, for SMT max capacity is less than 1024 already. No?
> 
> Yes, it is. I haven't looked in details but i think that we could use
> a capacity of 1024 for SMT with changes that have been done on how to
> evaluate if a sched_group is overloaded or not.

Changing SMT is a bit more invasive that I had hoped for for this patch
set. I will see if we can make it work with the current SMT capacities.

> 
> > But we may be able to cater for this in wake_cap() somehow. I can have a
> > look if Vincent doesn't like this patch.
> 
> IMO, rd->max_cpu_capacity field doesn't seem to be required for now .

No problem. I will try to get rid of it. I will drop the "arm:" patches
as well as they would have to be extended to guarantee a max capacity of
1024 and we most likely will have to change it again when Juri's DT
solution hopefully gets merged.

Morten

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-14 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-22 17:03 [PATCH v2 00/13] sched: Clean-ups and asymmetric cpu capacity support Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] sched: Fix power to capacity renaming in comment Morten Rasmussen
2016-08-10 18:03   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] sched/fair: Consistent use of prev_cpu in wakeup path Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 18:04   ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-23  9:56     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-23 12:24       ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-10 18:03   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Make the use of prev_cpu consistent in the " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] sched/fair: Optimize find_idlest_cpu() when there is no choice Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-13 12:20   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-08-10 18:03   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] sched: Introduce SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY sched_domain topology flag Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-11  9:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-11 10:42     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] sched: Enable SD_BALANCE_WAKE for asymmetric capacity systems Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-11 10:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-11 10:37     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-11 11:04       ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-11 11:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-12 14:26           ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] sched: Store maximum per-cpu capacity in root domain Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-11 10:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-11 16:16     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-07-12 11:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-13 11:18         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-07-13 12:40   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-07-13 13:48     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-07-13 16:37       ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-14 13:25         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-07-14 15:15           ` Morten Rasmussen [this message]
2016-07-15 11:46             ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-15 13:39               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-07-15 16:02                 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-18 12:48                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-07-18 15:11                     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] sched/fair: Let asymmetric cpu configurations balance at wake-up Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-11 11:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-11 12:32     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-13 12:56   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-07-13 16:14     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-14 13:45       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-07-15  8:37         ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] sched/fair: Compute task/cpu utilization at wake-up more correctly Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] sched/fair: Consider spare capacity in find_idlest_group() Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] sched: Add per-cpu max capacity to sched_group_capacity Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] sched/fair: Avoid pulling tasks from non-overloaded higher capacity groups Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-23 21:20   ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-06-30  7:49     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-14 16:39       ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-07-15  8:39         ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-12 12:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-12 14:34     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] arm: Set SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY for big.LITTLE platforms Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-22 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] arm: Update arch_scale_cpu_capacity() to reflect change to define Morten Rasmussen
2016-06-28 10:20 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] sched: Clean-ups and asymmetric cpu capacity support Koan-Sin Tan
2016-06-30  7:53   ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-08  7:35 ` KEITA KOBAYASHI
2016-07-08  8:18   ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-11  8:33 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-11 12:44   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-07-12 13:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-12 14:39     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-07-13 12:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-07-13 15:54   ` Morten Rasmussen

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