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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] fs: add userspace critical mounts event support
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 01:14:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160906231400.GU3296@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160906222847.GF15161@tuxbot>

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 03:28:47PM -0700, Bjorn Andersson wrote:
> On Tue 06 Sep 14:52 PDT 2016, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> > We already have MODULE_FIRMWARE(), we could have MODULE_FIRMWARE_REQ() or
> > something like it to help annotate the the driver was only functional with the
> > firmware, punt things to kmod to deal with the requirements.
> 
> That implies that a single driver will only use a single version of the
> firmware. 

Today firmware requests are done manually by the driver, in the future it should
be possible to specify just an array of firmwares and on that list specify
which firmware is optional, and perhaps if you need at last one. Then you treat
optional firmware upgrades as optional -- and only treat fatal conditions as
such. Today drivers manage all this on their own.  This is something we can
later do as we have the flexible firmware API in place, but for now -- you are
right. There is no clear way to extract the semantics of what firmware
requirements really are in an easy way.

> There are cases where we want a single driver to load firmware
> depending on e.g. hardware revisions,

Dynamic firmware names -- indeed. Good point.

> or previous firmware version and
> there are cases where we want to load firmware based on requested
> use-cases.

True.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-06 23:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 22:54 [PATCH v2 0/5] firmware: add SmPL grammar to avoid issues Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] MAINTAINERS: extend firmware_class maintainer list Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] firmware: annotate thou shalt not request fw on init or probe Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-24  6:55   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-24 20:39     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 11:05       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-25 19:41         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 20:10           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-25 20:25             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 20:30           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-02 23:59           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-03  0:20             ` [RFC] fs: add userspace critical mounts event support Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-03  4:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03  4:20                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                   ` <CA+55aFz4q5peXAeY9h8o3he7R=wXrBSYkOjMM9TehOw=pPoS+Q@mail.gmail.com>
2016-09-03 17:49                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-03 18:01                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03 18:10                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-06 21:52                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-06 22:28                             ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 23:14                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2016-09-24  1:37                           ` Herbert, Marc
2016-09-24 17:41                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-05  0:00                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05  0:12                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-05  0:24                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05  0:32                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-05 17:38                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05  1:48                                   ` Josh Triplett
2016-10-05  1:58                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-06 17:46                 ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 18:32                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-06 21:11                     ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 21:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-06 23:04                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-24  2:51                           ` Herbert, Marc
2016-10-04 23:28                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-06 22:32                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-14  2:38               ` Rob Landley
2016-10-05 18:00                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05 18:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-05 19:46                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08 22:47                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-09  9:13                         ` Daniel Wagner
2016-11-09 23:40                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-15  9:28                         ` Johannes Berg
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] firmware: update usermode helper docs and add SmPL report Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] firmware: add usermode helper DECLARE_FW_LOADER_USER() annotation Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] firmware: fix fw cache to avoid usermode helper on suspend Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-07  0:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] firmware: add SmPL grammar to avoid issues Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-13 21:47   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-28  0:41     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 14:50       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 15:04         ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 17:06           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 19:32             ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 19:46               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-13 23:52   ` Fengguang Wu
2016-07-14  2:15     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-14  2:23       ` Fengguang Wu
2016-07-14  3:08         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-14  3:35           ` Fengguang Wu
2016-08-24  0:45 ` [PATCH v3 " mcgrof
2016-08-24  0:45   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] MAINTAINERS: extend firmware_class maintainer list mcgrof
2016-08-24  0:45   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] firmware: annotate thou shalt not request fw on init or probe mcgrof
2016-08-24  8:17     ` Gabriel Paubert
2016-09-02 18:26       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-24  0:45   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] firmware: update usermode helper docs and add SmPL report mcgrof
2016-08-24  0:45   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] firmware: add usermode helper DECLARE_FW_LOADER_USER() annotation mcgrof
2016-08-24  0:45   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] firmware: fix fw cache to avoid usermode helper on suspend mcgrof
2016-08-31  7:03     ` Daniel Wagner
2016-09-02 18:13       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07  0:42   ` [PATCH v4 0/5] firmware: add SmPL grammar to avoid issues Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07  0:42     ` [PATCH v4 1/5] MAINTAINERS: extend firmware_class maintainer list Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07  6:43       ` Greg KH
2016-09-08 14:58         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-08 15:25         ` Ming Lei
2016-09-07  0:42     ` [PATCH v4 2/5] firmware: annotate thou shalt not request fw on init or probe Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07  0:42     ` [PATCH v4 3/5] firmware: update usermode helper docs and add SmPL report Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07  0:42     ` [PATCH v4 4/5] firmware: add usermode helper DECLARE_FW_LOADER_USER() annotation Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07  0:42     ` [PATCH v4 5/5] firmware: fix fw cache to avoid usermode helper on suspend Luis R. Rodriguez

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