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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] mm, vmscan: show LRU name in mm_vmscan_lru_isolate tracepoint
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 08:56:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161229075649.GB29208@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161229060204.GC1815@bbox>

On Thu 29-12-16 15:02:04, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 04:30:29PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > 
> > mm_vmscan_lru_isolate currently prints only whether the LRU we isolate
> > from is file or anonymous but we do not know which LRU this is. It is
> > useful to know whether the list is file or anonymous as well. Change
> > the tracepoint to show symbolic names of the lru rather.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> 
> Not exactly same with this but idea is almost same.
> I used almost same tracepoint to investigate agging(i.e., deactivating) problem
> in 32b kernel with node-lru.
> It was enough. Namely, I didn't need tracepoint in shrink_active_list like your
> first patch.
> Your first patch is more straightforwad and information. But as you introduced
> this patch, I want to ask in here.
> Isn't it enough with this patch without your first one to find a such problem?

I assume this should be a reply to
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20161228153032.10821-8-mhocko@kernel.org, right?
And you are right that for the particular problem it was enough to have
a tracepoint inside inactive_list_is_low and shrink_active_list one
wasn't really needed. On the other hand aging issues are really hard to
debug as well and so I think that both are useful. The first one tell us
_why_ we do aging while the later _how_ we do that.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-29  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-28 15:30 [PATCH 0/7] vm, vmscan: enahance vmscan tracepoints Michal Hocko
2016-12-28 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm, vmscan: remove unused mm_vmscan_memcg_isolate Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  7:33   ` Hillf Danton
2016-12-28 15:30 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm, vmscan: add active list aging tracepoint Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  5:33   ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  7:52     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30  1:48       ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-30  9:26         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30  9:38           ` Hillf Danton
2016-12-30 16:04           ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-30 16:37             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 17:30               ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-03  5:03               ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-03  8:21                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-04  5:07                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-04  7:28                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-04  7:50                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  7:44   ` Hillf Danton
2016-12-28 15:30 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm, vmscan: show the number of skipped pages in mm_vmscan_lru_isolate Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  5:53   ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  7:49   ` Hillf Danton
2017-01-03 17:21   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-03 20:43     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-28 15:30 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm, vmscan: show LRU name in mm_vmscan_lru_isolate tracepoint Michal Hocko
2016-12-28 15:50   ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-12-28 16:00     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-28 16:40       ` Nikolay Borisov
2016-12-28 16:49         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  6:02   ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  7:56     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-12-30  1:56       ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-30  9:33         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  7:53   ` Hillf Danton
2017-01-03 17:08   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-03 20:47     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-03 20:52       ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-03 21:24         ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-03 21:40           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-03 21:48             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-28 15:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm, vmscan: extract shrink_page_list reclaim counters into a struct Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  8:00   ` Hillf Danton
2016-12-28 15:30 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm, vmscan: enhance mm_vmscan_lru_shrink_inactive tracepoint Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  8:05   ` Hillf Danton
2016-12-28 15:30 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm, vmscan: add mm_vmscan_inactive_list_is_low tracepoint Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  8:19   ` Hillf Danton
2016-12-30  9:11 ` [PATCH 0/7] vm, vmscan: enahance vmscan tracepoints Mel Gorman
2016-12-30  9:36   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 10:20     ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-04 10:19 [PATCH 0/7 v2] " Michal Hocko
2017-01-04 10:19 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm, vmscan: show LRU name in mm_vmscan_lru_isolate tracepoint Michal Hocko
2017-01-05  6:04   ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-05 10:16     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-05 14:56       ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-05 15:17         ` Michal Hocko

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