From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
David Gnedt <david.gnedt@davizone.at>,
Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>,
Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>,
Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for loading NVS calibration data
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 09:33:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170201083312.GA6609@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170131155918.GD7403@atomide.com>
On Tuesday 31 January 2017 07:59:18 Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org> [170130 22:36]:
> > Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> writes:
> >
> > > * Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> [170127 11:41]:
> > >> On Fri 2017-01-27 17:23:07, Kalle Valo wrote:
> > >> > Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com> writes:
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Friday 27 January 2017 14:26:22 Kalle Valo wrote:
> > >> > >> Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com> writes:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > 2) It was already tested that example NVS data can be used for N900 e.g.
> > >> > >> > for SSH connection. If real correct data are not available it is better
> > >> > >> > to use at least those example (and probably log warning message) so user
> > >> > >> > can connect via SSH and start investigating where is problem.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I disagree. Allowing default calibration data to be used can be
> > >> > >> unnoticed by user and left her wondering why wifi works so badly.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > So there are only two options:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1) Disallow it and so these users will have non-working wifi.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2) Allow those data to be used as fallback mechanism.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > And personally I'm against 1) because it will break wifi support for
> > >> > > *all* Nokia N900 devices right now.
> > >> >
> > >> > All two of them? :)
> > >>
> > >> Umm. You clearly want a flock of angry penguins at your doorsteps :-).
> > >
> > > Well this silly issue of symlinking and renaming nvs files in a standard
> > > Linux distro was also hitting me on various devices with wl12xx/wl18xx
> > > trying to use the same rootfs.
> > >
> > > Why don't we just set a custom compatible property for n900 that then
> > > picks up some other nvs file instead of the default?
> >
> > Please don't. An ugly kernel workaround in kernel because of user space
> > problems is a bad idea. wl1251 should just ask for NVS file from user
> > space, it shouldn't care if it's a "default" file or something else.
> > That's a user space policy decision.
>
> Grr I keep forgetting it needs to be for each device manufactured so
> yeah that won't work.
>
> The names of standard distro files are hardcoded into the kernel
> driver so it's also a kernel problem though :p
>
> How about a custom devices tree property saying "needs-custom-firmware"?
How does it help request_firmware() call which automatically loads
firmware file from VFS (if is available)?
> Something that would prevent anything being loaded until user space
> loads the firmware. It could also be set in the driver automatically
> based on the compatible flag if we always want it enabled. And we could
> have some cmdline option to ignore it. Or the other way around whatever
> makes sense.
So you just want to kernel automatically prevent loading firmware file
(based on flag which driver can set). That is similar approach as mine.
> > Why can't you do something like this:
> >
> > * rename the NVS file linux-firmware to wl1251-nvs.bin.example
>
> As that name is hardcoded in the kernel and that file is provided by
> all standard distros, let's assume we just have to deal with that ABI
> forever.
Yes.
> > * before distro updates linux-firmware create yours own deb/rpm/whatever
> > package "wl1251-firmware" which installs your flavor of nvs file (or
> > the user fallback helper if more dynamic functionality is preferred)
>
> And that won't work when using the same file system on other machines.
>
> Think NFSroot for example. At least I'm using the same NFSroot across
> about 15 different machines including one n900 macro board with smc91x
> Ethernet.
Exactly problem which we already discussed in previous emails. You
cannot serve one file (loaded by direct request_firmware) when your
rootfs is readonly, e.g. comes via NFS shared for more devices...
--
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-01 8:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-24 16:52 [PATCH 0/6] wl1251: Fix MAC address for Nokia N900 Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 16:52 ` [PATCH 1/6] firmware: Add request_firmware_prefer_user() function Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 16:52 ` [PATCH 2/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for loading NVS calibration data Pali Rohár
2016-12-25 20:15 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-25 20:46 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-26 15:43 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-26 16:04 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-26 16:35 ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-03 17:59 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-03 19:02 ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-05-04 2:28 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-12 20:55 ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27 7:33 ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27 8:58 ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27 9:43 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 10:05 ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27 10:10 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 10:19 ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27 10:34 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 11:49 ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27 11:57 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 12:26 ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27 12:53 ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27 13:16 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 13:11 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 15:23 ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27 15:41 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 19:40 ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-30 17:53 ` Tony Lindgren
2017-01-30 18:03 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-31 6:35 ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-31 15:59 ` Tony Lindgren
2017-02-01 8:33 ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2017-02-01 9:35 ` Michal Kazior
2017-01-29 17:10 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-27 12:03 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 16:52 ` [PATCH 3/6] wl1251: Update wl->nvs_len after wl->nvs is valid Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 18:02 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 16:52 ` [PATCH 4/6] wl1251: Generate random MAC address only if driver does not have valid Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 18:38 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 16:53 ` [PATCH 5/6] wl1251: Parse and use MAC address from supplied NVS data Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 18:14 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 18:40 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 7:54 ` Kalle Valo
2016-12-24 16:53 ` [PATCH 6/6] wl1251: Set generated MAC address back to " Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 18:17 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 18:44 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 7:56 ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27 9:05 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 9:30 ` Kalle Valo
2017-11-09 23:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] wl1251: Fix MAC address for Nokia N900 Pali Rohár
2017-11-09 23:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] wl1251: Update wl->nvs_len after wl->nvs is valid Pali Rohár
2018-02-27 13:51 ` [v2,1/6] " Kalle Valo
2018-02-27 13:51 ` Kalle Valo
2017-11-09 23:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] wl1251: Generate random MAC address only if driver does not have valid Pali Rohár
2017-11-09 23:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] wl1251: Parse and use MAC address from supplied NVS data Pali Rohár
2017-11-09 23:38 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] wl1251: Set generated MAC address back to " Pali Rohár
2017-11-09 23:38 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] firmware: Add request_firmware_prefer_user() function Pali Rohár
2017-11-10 20:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-10 20:28 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-10 21:08 ` Pali Rohár
2017-11-10 23:35 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-09 23:38 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for loading NVS calibration data Pali Rohár
2018-01-02 19:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] wl1251: Fix MAC address for Nokia N900 Pali Rohár
2018-01-05 1:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-01-27 14:14 ` Pali Rohár
2018-02-19 8:27 ` Kalle Valo
[not found] <0fd90416-f33c-a6be-14fd-5e964583e9cb@broadcom.com>
2017-05-15 23:13 ` [PATCH 2/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for loading NVS calibration data Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-16 8:41 ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-05-16 23:57 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-23 21:53 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-30 21:35 ` Arend van Spriel
2017-08-10 19:43 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-17 12:06 ` Johannes Berg
2017-05-17 12:53 ` Pali Rohár
2017-05-17 13:04 ` Johannes Berg
2017-05-17 13:21 ` Pali Rohár
2017-05-17 13:22 ` Johannes Berg
2017-05-18 0:08 ` Bjorn Andersson
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