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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	David Gnedt <david.gnedt@davizone.at>,
	Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>,
	Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
	Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>,
	Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for loading NVS calibration data
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 17:23:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bmus5xyc.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170127131146.GI24223@pali> ("Pali \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Roh\=C3\=A1r\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Fri, 27 Jan 2017 14:11:46 +0100")

Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com> writes:

> On Friday 27 January 2017 14:26:22 Kalle Valo wrote:
>> Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>> > 2) It was already tested that example NVS data can be used for N900 e.g.
>> > for SSH connection. If real correct data are not available it is better
>> > to use at least those example (and probably log warning message) so user
>> > can connect via SSH and start investigating where is problem.
>> 
>> I disagree. Allowing default calibration data to be used can be
>> unnoticed by user and left her wondering why wifi works so badly.
>
> So there are only two options:
>
> 1) Disallow it and so these users will have non-working wifi.
>
> 2) Allow those data to be used as fallback mechanism.
>
> And personally I'm against 1) because it will break wifi support for
> *all* Nokia N900 devices right now.

All two of them? :)

But not working is exactly my point, if correct calibration data is not
available wifi should not work. And it's not only about functionality
problems, there's also the regulatory aspect.

>> > 3) If we do rename *now* we will totally break wifi support on Nokia
>> > N900.
>> 
>> Then the distro should fix that when updating the linux-firmware
>> packages. Can you provide details about the setup, what distro etc?
>
> Debian stable, Ubuntu LTSs 14.04, 16.04. 

You can run these out of box on N900?

> And I think that other LTS distributions contains that example nvs
> file too (I'm not going to verify others, but list will be probably
> long). Upgrading linux-firmware is against policy of those
> distributions. So no this is not an solution.

So instead we should workaround distro policies in kernel? Come on.

Seriously, just rename the file in linux-firmware and file a bug (with a
patch) to distros. If they don't fix the bug you just have to do a
custom hack for N900. But such is life.

-- 
Kalle Valo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-27 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-24 16:52 [PATCH 0/6] wl1251: Fix MAC address for Nokia N900 Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 16:52 ` [PATCH 1/6] firmware: Add request_firmware_prefer_user() function Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 16:52 ` [PATCH 2/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for loading NVS calibration data Pali Rohár
2016-12-25 20:15   ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-25 20:46     ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-26 15:43       ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-26 16:04         ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-26 16:35     ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-03 17:59       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-03 19:02         ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-05-04  2:28           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-12 20:55             ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27  7:33   ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27  8:58     ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27  9:43     ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 10:05       ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27 10:10         ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 10:19           ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27 10:34             ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 11:49               ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27 11:57                 ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 12:26                   ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27 12:53                     ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-01-27 13:16                       ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 13:11                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 15:23                       ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2017-01-27 15:41                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27 19:40                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-30 17:53                           ` Tony Lindgren
2017-01-30 18:03                             ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-31  6:35                             ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-31 15:59                               ` Tony Lindgren
2017-02-01  8:33                                 ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-01  9:35                                   ` Michal Kazior
2017-01-29 17:10                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-27 12:03           ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 16:52 ` [PATCH 3/6] wl1251: Update wl->nvs_len after wl->nvs is valid Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 18:02   ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 16:52 ` [PATCH 4/6] wl1251: Generate random MAC address only if driver does not have valid Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 18:08   ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 18:38     ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 16:53 ` [PATCH 5/6] wl1251: Parse and use MAC address from supplied NVS data Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 18:14   ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 18:40     ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27  7:54   ` Kalle Valo
2016-12-24 16:53 ` [PATCH 6/6] wl1251: Set generated MAC address back to " Pali Rohár
2016-12-24 18:17   ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-24 18:44     ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27  7:56   ` Kalle Valo
2017-01-27  9:05     ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-27  9:30       ` Kalle Valo
2017-11-09 23:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] wl1251: Fix MAC address for Nokia N900 Pali Rohár
2017-11-09 23:38   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] wl1251: Update wl->nvs_len after wl->nvs is valid Pali Rohár
2018-02-27 13:51     ` [v2,1/6] " Kalle Valo
2018-02-27 13:51     ` Kalle Valo
2017-11-09 23:38   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] wl1251: Generate random MAC address only if driver does not have valid Pali Rohár
2017-11-09 23:38   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] wl1251: Parse and use MAC address from supplied NVS data Pali Rohár
2017-11-09 23:38   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] wl1251: Set generated MAC address back to " Pali Rohár
2017-11-09 23:38   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] firmware: Add request_firmware_prefer_user() function Pali Rohár
2017-11-10 20:26     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-10 20:28       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-10 21:08       ` Pali Rohár
2017-11-10 23:35         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-09 23:38   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for loading NVS calibration data Pali Rohár
2018-01-02 19:23   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] wl1251: Fix MAC address for Nokia N900 Pali Rohár
2018-01-05  1:45     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-01-27 14:14       ` Pali Rohár
2018-02-19  8:27         ` Kalle Valo
     [not found] <0fd90416-f33c-a6be-14fd-5e964583e9cb@broadcom.com>
2017-05-15 23:13 ` [PATCH 2/6] wl1251: Use request_firmware_prefer_user() for loading NVS calibration data Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-16  8:41   ` Arend Van Spriel
2017-05-16 23:57     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-23 21:53     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-30 21:35       ` Arend van Spriel
2017-08-10 19:43         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-17 12:06   ` Johannes Berg
2017-05-17 12:53     ` Pali Rohár
2017-05-17 13:04       ` Johannes Berg
2017-05-17 13:21         ` Pali Rohár
2017-05-17 13:22           ` Johannes Berg
2017-05-18  0:08       ` Bjorn Andersson

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