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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shantanu Goel <sgoel01@yahoo.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm, vmscan: fix zone balance check in prepare_kswapd_sleep
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:05:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170223150534.64fpsvlse33rj2aa@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170222070036.GA17962@bbox>

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 04:00:36PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > There are also more allocation stalls. One of the largest impacts was due
> > to pages written back from kswapd context rising from 0 pages to 4516642
> > pages during the hour the workload ran for. By and large, the patch has very
> > bad behaviour but easily missed as the impact on a UMA machine is negligible.
> > 
> > This patch is included with the data in case a bisection leads to this area.
> > This patch is also a pre-requisite for the rest of the series.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Shantanu Goel <sgoel01@yahoo.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
> 
> Hmm, I don't understand why we should bind wakeup_kcompactd to kswapd's
> short sleep point where every eligible zones are balanced.
> What's the correlation between them?
> 

If kswapd is ready for a short sleep, eligible zones are balanced for
order-0 but not necessarily the originally requested order if kswapd
gave up reclaiming as compaction was ready to start. As kswapd is ready
to sleep for a short period, it's a suitable time for kcompactd to decide
if it should start working or not. There is no need for kswapd to be aware
of kcompactd's wakeup criteria.

> Can't we wake up kcompactd once we found a zone has enough free pages
> above high watermark like this?
> 
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 26c3b405ef34..f4f0ad0e9ede 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -3346,13 +3346,6 @@ static void kswapd_try_to_sleep(pg_data_t *pgdat, int alloc_order, int reclaim_o
>  		 * that pages and compaction may succeed so reset the cache.
>  		 */
>  		reset_isolation_suitable(pgdat);
> -
> -		/*
> -		 * We have freed the memory, now we should compact it to make
> -		 * allocation of the requested order possible.
> -		 */
> -		wakeup_kcompactd(pgdat, alloc_order, classzone_idx);
> -
>  		remaining = schedule_timeout(HZ/10);
>  
>  		/*
> @@ -3451,6 +3444,14 @@ static int kswapd(void *p)
>  		bool ret;
>  
>  kswapd_try_sleep:
> +		/*
> +		 * We have freed the memory, now we should compact it to make
> +		 * allocation of the requested order possible.
> +		 */
> +		if (alloc_order > 0 && zone_balanced(zone, reclaim_order,
> +							classzone_idx))
> +			wakeup_kcompactd(pgdat, alloc_order, classzone_idx);
> +
>  		kswapd_try_to_sleep(pgdat, alloc_order, reclaim_order,
>  					classzone_idx);

That's functionally very similar to what happens already.  wakeup_kcompactd
checks the order and does not wake for order-0. It also makes its own
decisions that include zone_balanced on whether it is safe to wakeup.

I doubt there would be any measurable difference from a patch like this
and to my mind at least, it does not improve the readability or flow of
the code.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-23 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-15  9:22 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce amount of time kswapd sleeps prematurely Mel Gorman
2017-02-15  9:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm, vmscan: fix zone balance check in prepare_kswapd_sleep Mel Gorman
2017-02-16  2:50   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-22  7:00   ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-23 15:05     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2017-02-24  1:17       ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-24  9:11         ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-27  6:16           ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-15  9:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm, vmscan: Only clear pgdat congested/dirty/writeback state when balanced Mel Gorman
2017-02-15  9:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm, vmscan: Prevent kswapd sleeping prematurely due to mismatched classzone_idx Mel Gorman
2017-02-16  6:23   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-16  8:10     ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-16  8:21       ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-16  9:32         ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-20 16:34         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-21  4:10           ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-20 16:42   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-23 15:01     ` Mel Gorman
2017-03-01  9:04       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-15 20:30 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce amount of time kswapd sleeps prematurely Andrew Morton
2017-02-15 21:29   ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-15 21:56     ` Andrew Morton
2017-02-15 22:15       ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-15 22:00     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-03-09  7:56 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce amount of time kswapd sleeps prematurely v2 Mel Gorman
2017-03-09  7:56 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm, vmscan: fix zone balance check in prepare_kswapd_sleep Mel Gorman
2017-03-10  9:06   ` Vlastimil Babka

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