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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com,
	yuyang.du@intel.com, pjt@google.com, bsegall@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/fair: update scale invariance of PELT
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:53:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170411085305.aik6gdy6n3wa22ok@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170411075221.GA30421@linaro.org>

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 09:52:21AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> Le Monday 10 Apr 2017 à 19:38:02 (+0200), Peter Zijlstra a écrit :
> > 
> > Thanks for the rebase.
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:18:29AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, so let me try and paraphrase what this patch does.
> > 
> > So consider a task that runs 16 out of our 32ms window:
> > 
> >    running   idle
> >   |---------|---------|
> > 
> > 
> > You're saying that when we scale running with the frequency, suppose we
> > were at 50% freq, we'll end up with:
> > 
> >    run  idle
> >   |----|---------|
> > 
> > 
> > Which is obviously a shorter total then before; so what you do is add
> > back the lost idle time like:
> > 
> >    run  lost idle
> >   |----|----|---------|
> > 
> > 
> > to arrive at the same total time. Which seems to make sense.
> 
> Yes

OK, bear with me.


So we have:


  util_sum' = utilsum * y^p +

                                 p-1
              d1 * y^p + 1024 * \Sum y^n + d3 * y^0
	                         n=1

For the unscaled version, right?

Now for the scaled version, instead of adding a full 'd1,d2,d3' running
segments, we want to add partially running segments, where r=f*d/f_max,
and lost segments l=d-r to fill out the idle time.

But afaict we then end up with (F=f/f_max):


  util_sum' = utilsum * y^p +

                                         p-1
              F * d1 * y^p + F * 1024 * \Sum y^n + F * d3 * y^0
	                                 n=1

And we can collect the common term F:

  util_sum' = utilsum * y^p +

                                      p-1
              F * (d1 * y^p + 1024 * \Sum y^n + d3 * y^0)
	                              n=1


Which is exactly what we already did.

So now I'm confused. Where did I go wrong?


Because by scaling the contribution we get the exact result of doing the
smaller 'running' + 'lost' segments.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-11  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-10  9:18 [PATCH v2] sched/fair: update scale invariance of PELT Vincent Guittot
2017-04-10 17:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-11  7:52   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-11  8:53     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-04-11  9:40       ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-11 10:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-11 10:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-11 13:09             ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-12 11:28               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-12 14:50                 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-12 15:44                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-13  9:42                     ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-13 13:32                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-13 14:59                   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-13 18:06                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-14  8:47                       ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-11 12:08           ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-11  9:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-11  9:46       ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-13 13:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-13 15:16       ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-13 16:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-14  8:49           ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-19 16:31             ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-28 15:52 ` Morten Rasmussen
2017-04-28 17:08   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-05-03 17:11   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-04-28 22:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-01  9:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-02 13:38     ` Vincent Guittot

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