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* [PATCH] KVM: x86: lower default for halt_poll_ns
@ 2017-04-18 10:41 Paolo Bonzini
  2017-05-16 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2017-04-18 10:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, kvm; +Cc: rkrcmar

In some fio benchmarks, halt_poll_ns=400000 caused CPU utilization to
increase heavily even in cases where the performance improvement was
small.  In particular, bandwidth divided by CPU usage was as much as
60% lower.

To some extent this is the expected effect of the patch, and the
additional CPU utilization is only visible when running the
benchmarks.  However, halving the threshold also halves the extra
CPU utilization (from +30-130% to +20-70%) and has no negative
effect on performance.

Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
---
 arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
index 74ef58c8ff53..68d4a33da392 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
@@ -45,7 +45,7 @@
 
 #define KVM_PIO_PAGE_OFFSET 1
 #define KVM_COALESCED_MMIO_PAGE_OFFSET 2
-#define KVM_HALT_POLL_NS_DEFAULT 400000
+#define KVM_HALT_POLL_NS_DEFAULT 200000
 
 #define KVM_IRQCHIP_NUM_PINS  KVM_IOAPIC_NUM_PINS
 
-- 
2.9.3

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* Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: lower default for halt_poll_ns
  2017-04-18 10:41 [PATCH] KVM: x86: lower default for halt_poll_ns Paolo Bonzini
@ 2017-05-16 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
  2017-05-16 20:41   ` Radim Krčmář
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2017-05-16 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, kvm; +Cc: rkrcmar



On 18/04/2017 12:41, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> In some fio benchmarks, halt_poll_ns=400000 caused CPU utilization to
> increase heavily even in cases where the performance improvement was
> small.  In particular, bandwidth divided by CPU usage was as much as
> 60% lower.
> 
> To some extent this is the expected effect of the patch, and the
> additional CPU utilization is only visible when running the
> benchmarks.  However, halving the threshold also halves the extra
> CPU utilization (from +30-130% to +20-70%) and has no negative
> effect on performance.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>

Ping?

Paolo

> ---
>  arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> index 74ef58c8ff53..68d4a33da392 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> @@ -45,7 +45,7 @@
>  
>  #define KVM_PIO_PAGE_OFFSET 1
>  #define KVM_COALESCED_MMIO_PAGE_OFFSET 2
> -#define KVM_HALT_POLL_NS_DEFAULT 400000
> +#define KVM_HALT_POLL_NS_DEFAULT 200000
>  
>  #define KVM_IRQCHIP_NUM_PINS  KVM_IOAPIC_NUM_PINS
>  
> 

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* Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: lower default for halt_poll_ns
  2017-05-16 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
@ 2017-05-16 20:41   ` Radim Krčmář
  2017-05-17  6:54     ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Radim Krčmář @ 2017-05-16 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Bonzini; +Cc: linux-kernel, kvm

2017-05-16 18:58+0200, Paolo Bonzini:
> On 18/04/2017 12:41, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> In some fio benchmarks, halt_poll_ns=400000 caused CPU utilization to
>> increase heavily even in cases where the performance improvement was
>> small.  In particular, bandwidth divided by CPU usage was as much as
>> 60% lower.
>> 
>> To some extent this is the expected effect of the patch, and the
>> additional CPU utilization is only visible when running the
>> benchmarks.  However, halving the threshold also halves the extra
>> CPU utilization (from +30-130% to +20-70%) and has no negative
>> effect on performance.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> 
> Ping?

I didn't see any regression in crude benchmarks either and 200 us seems
better anyway (just under 1/2 of Windows' timer frequency).

Queued for rc2 as it is simple enough, thanks.

---
Still, I think we have dynamic polling to mitigate this overhead;
how was it behaving?

I noticed a questionable decision in growing the window:
we know how long the polling should have been (block_ns), but we do not
use that information to set the next halt_poll_ns.

Has something like this been tried?

diff --git a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
index f0fe9d02f6bb..d8dbf50957fc 100644
--- a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
+++ b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
@@ -2193,7 +2193,7 @@ void kvm_vcpu_block(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
 		/* we had a short halt and our poll time is too small */
 		else if (vcpu->halt_poll_ns < halt_poll_ns &&
 			block_ns < halt_poll_ns)
-			grow_halt_poll_ns(vcpu);
+			vcpu->halt_poll_ns = block_ns /* + x ? */;
 	} else
 		vcpu->halt_poll_ns = 0;
 

It would avoid a case where several halts in a row were interrupted
after 300 us, but on the first one we'd schedule out after 10 us, then
after 20, 40, 80, 160, and finally have the successful poll at 320 us,
but we have just wasted time if the window is reset at any point before
that.

(I really don't like benchmarking ...)

Thanks.

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* Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: lower default for halt_poll_ns
  2017-05-16 20:41   ` Radim Krčmář
@ 2017-05-17  6:54     ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2017-05-17  6:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Radim Krčmář; +Cc: linux-kernel, kvm


> Still, I think we have dynamic polling to mitigate this overhead;
> how was it behaving?

Correctly: the polling stopped as soon as the benchmark ended. :)

> I noticed a questionable decision in growing the window:
> we know how long the polling should have been (block_ns), but we do not
> use that information to set the next halt_poll_ns.
> 
> Has something like this been tried?
> 
> diff --git a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> index f0fe9d02f6bb..d8dbf50957fc 100644
> --- a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> +++ b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> @@ -2193,7 +2193,7 @@ void kvm_vcpu_block(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>  		/* we had a short halt and our poll time is too small */
>  		else if (vcpu->halt_poll_ns < halt_poll_ns &&
>  			block_ns < halt_poll_ns)
> -			grow_halt_poll_ns(vcpu);
> +			vcpu->halt_poll_ns = block_ns /* + x ? */;

IIUC the idea was to grow slower than just, say, 10 ns -> 150 ns.
Taking into account block_ns might also be useful, but it shouldn't
matter much since the shrinking is very aggressive.

Paolo

>  	} else
>  		vcpu->halt_poll_ns = 0;
>  
> 
> It would avoid a case where several halts in a row were interrupted
> after 300 us, but on the first one we'd schedule out after 10 us, then
> after 20, 40, 80, 160, and finally have the successful poll at 320 us,
> but we have just wasted time if the window is reset at any point before
> that.
> 
> (I really don't like benchmarking ...)
> 
> Thanks.
> 

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