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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	mingo@redhat.com, viresh.kumar@linaro.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, luca.abeni@santannapisa.it,
	claudio@evidence.eu.com, tommaso.cucinotta@santannapisa.it,
	bristot@redhat.com, mathieu.poirier@linaro.org,
	tkjos@android.com, joelaf@google.com, andresoportus@google.com,
	morten.rasmussen@arm.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	patrick.bellasi@arm.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 4/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: split utilization signals
Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 10:01:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170524090102.wjljvyxw5acbdwfd@e106622-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170524070107.xq7tmjxqg6afsrss@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi,

On 24/05/17 09:01, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 01:30:36AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 09:29:27 PM Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 09:53:47AM +0100, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > > > To be able to treat utilization signals of different scheduling classes
> > > > in different ways (e.g., CFS signal might be stale while DEADLINE signal
> > > > is never stale by design) we need to split sugov_cpu::util signal in two:
> > > > util_cfs and util_dl.
> > > > 
> > > > This patch does that by also changing sugov_get_util() parameter list.
> > > > After this change aggregation of the different signals has to be performed
> > > > by sugov_get_util() users (so that they can decide what to do with the
> > > > different signals).
> > > 
> > > So what I don't see this patch doing; and I don't remember if cpufreq is
> > > ready for this at all, is set the util_dl as min/guaranteed freq and
> > > util_cfs+util_dl as requested freq.
> > 
> > I'm totally unsure what you mean here.
> 
> I was thinking of the CPPC/HWP stuff, where you can set different
> frequencies with different levels of guarantees.
> 
> We'd want to set util_dl as the minimum (guaranteed) performance, and
> util_dl + util_cfs as the desired performance level.
> 
> > cpufreq doesn't have a "guaranteed frequency" concept of any sort right now.
> 
> I was afraid of that ;-) I think we want a comment in the code stating
> that this is the desired goal though. Then once cpufreq is ready to deal
> with it we can change it..

Sure, I can add that in next version.

Thanks,

- Juri

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-24  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-23  8:53 [PATCH RFC 0/8] SCHED_DEADLINE freq/cpu invariance and OPP selection Juri Lelli
2017-05-23  8:53 ` [PATCH RFC 1/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: make use of DEADLINE utilization signal Juri Lelli
2017-05-23  8:53 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] sched/deadline: move cpu frequency selection triggering points Juri Lelli
2017-05-23  8:53 ` [PATCH RFC 3/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: make worker kthread be SCHED_DEADLINE Juri Lelli
2017-05-23 18:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-24  9:31     ` Juri Lelli
2017-05-23  8:53 ` [PATCH RFC 4/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: split utilization signals Juri Lelli
2017-05-23 19:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-24  9:01     ` Juri Lelli
2017-05-23 19:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-23 23:30     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-24  7:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-24  9:01         ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2017-05-23  8:53 ` [PATCH RFC 5/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: always consider all CPUs when deciding next freq Juri Lelli
2017-05-23  8:53 ` [PATCH RFC 6/8] sched/sched.h: remove sd arch_scale_freq_capacity parameter Juri Lelli
2017-05-23  8:53 ` [PATCH RFC 7/8] sched/sched.h: move arch_scale_{freq,cpu}_capacity outside CONFIG_SMP Juri Lelli
2017-05-23  8:53 ` [PATCH RFC 8/8] sched/deadline: make bandwidth enforcement scale-invariant Juri Lelli
2017-05-23 20:23 ` [PATCH RFC 0/8] SCHED_DEADLINE freq/cpu invariance and OPP selection Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-23 20:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-24  9:25   ` Juri Lelli
2017-05-24  9:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-24  9:50       ` Juri Lelli
2017-05-24 11:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-24 10:01     ` Luca Abeni
2017-05-24 11:29       ` Peter Zijlstra

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