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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] livepatch: introduce shadow variable API
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170724150407.jyb33ux2f5iyetvq@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f903b90c-70a9-5e29-2f62-b409bc66cad7@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 09:55:59AM -0400, Joe Lawrence wrote:
> >>> I would do WARN() in klp_shadow_attach() when the variable
> >>> already existed are return NULL. Of course it might be inoncent
> >>> duplication. But it might mean that someone else is using another
> >>> variable of the same name but with different content. klp_shadow_get()
> >>> would then return the same variable for two different purposes.
> >>> Then the whole system might end like a glass on a stony floor.
> >>
> >> What do you think of expanding the API to include each the cases
> >> outlined above?   Something like:
> >>
> >>   1 - klp_attach = allocate and add a unique <obj, id> to the hash,
> >>                    duplicates return NULL and a WARN
> > 
> > Sounds good.
> > 
> >>   2 - klp_get_or_attach = return <obj, id> if it already exists,
> >>                           otherwise allocate a new one
> > 
> > Sounds good.
> > 
> >>   3 - klp_get_or_update = update and return <obj, id> if it already
> >>                           exists, otherwise allocate a new one
> > 
> > I am not sure where this behavior would make sense. See below.
> > 
> > 
> >> IMHO, I think cases 1 and 3 are most intuitive, so maybe case 2 should
> >> be dropped.  Since you suggested adding klp_get_or_attach(), what do you
> >> think?
> > 
> > I do not agree. Let's look at the example with the missing lock.
> > The patch adds the lock if it did not exist. Then the lock can
> > be used to synchronize all further operations.
> > 
> > klp_get_or_update() would always replace the existing lock
> > with a freshly initialized one. We would loss the information
> > if it was locked or not.
> 
> Ah good point, perhaps we have two situations here:
> 
>   A - A shadow variable that's pointing to some object, like a lock,
>       where the original object is required.  (Your example above.)
> 
>   B - A shadow variable that's storing the data itself.  In other words,
>       instead of attaching a pointer, the whole object was attached:
> 
>         void patched_function()
>         {
>            ...
>            klp_get_or_attach(obj, id, &jiffies, sizeof(jiffies), ...)
>            ...
> 
>       in which case the caller is only interested in pushing in the
>       latest version of jiffies.
> 
> For these I suggest klp_get_or_attach() for case A and
> klp_get_or_update() for case B.

klp_get_or_update() doesn't actually 'get', because even if it does, it
gets updated first.  I think a more precise name would be
klp_update_or_attach().

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-24 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-28 15:37 [PATCH v2 0/2] livepatch: add shadow variable API Joe Lawrence
2017-06-28 15:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] livepatch: introduce " Joe Lawrence
2017-06-30 13:49   ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-07 18:05     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-14  0:41   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-17 15:35     ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-18 13:00       ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-18 19:36         ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-19 15:19           ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 18:50             ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-17 15:29   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-18 20:21     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-19  2:28       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 19:01       ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-20 14:45         ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-20 15:48           ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-20 20:23             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-21  8:42             ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-21  8:59             ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-18 12:45   ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-20 20:30     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-21  9:12       ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-21  9:27         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-21  9:13       ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-21 13:55         ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-24 15:04           ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-06-28 15:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] livepatch: add shadow variable sample programs Joe Lawrence
2017-07-18 14:47   ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-18 19:15     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-19 14:44       ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 15:06   ` Petr Mladek

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