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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
	Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 22/29] lockup_detector: Make watchdog_nmi_reconfigure() two stage
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 20:01:26 +1000
Message-ID: <20171003200126.358155b7@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1710030902310.2281@nanos>

On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 09:04:03 +0200 (CEST)
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Michael Ellerman wrote:  
> > > Hi Thomas,
> > > Unfortunately this is hitting the WARN_ON in start_wd_cpu() on powerpc
> > > because we're calling it multiple times for the boot CPU.
> > > 
> > > The first call is via:
> > > 
> > >   start_wd_on_cpu+0x80/0x2f0
> > >   watchdog_nmi_reconfigure+0x124/0x170
> > >   softlockup_reconfigure_threads+0x110/0x130
> > >   lockup_detector_init+0xbc/0xe0
> > >   kernel_init_freeable+0x18c/0x37c
> > >   kernel_init+0x2c/0x160
> > >   ret_from_kernel_thread+0x5c/0xbc
> > > 
> > > And then again via the CPU hotplug registration:
> > > 
> > >   start_wd_on_cpu+0x80/0x2f0
> > >   cpuhp_invoke_callback+0x194/0x620
> > >   cpuhp_thread_fun+0x7c/0x1b0
> > >   smpboot_thread_fn+0x290/0x2a0
> > >   kthread+0x168/0x1b0
> > >   ret_from_kernel_thread+0x5c/0xbc
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The first call is new because previously watchdog_nmi_reconfigure()
> > > wasn't called from softlockup_reconfigure_threads().  
> > 
> > Hmm, don't you have the same problem with CPU hotplug or do you just get
> > lucky because the hotplug callback in your code is ordered vs. the
> > softlockup thread hotplug callback in a way that this does not hit?

I had the idea that it watchdog_nmi_reconfigure() being only called
with get_online_cpus held would prevent hotplug callbacks running.
  
> 
> Which leads me to the question why you need the hotplug state at all if the
> softlockup detector is enabled. Wouldn't it make more sense to only
> register the state if softlockup detector is turned off in Kconfig and
> actually move it to the core code?

I don't understand what you mean exactly, but it was done to avoid
relying on the softlockup detector at all, because it wasn't needed
for anything else (unlike the perf lockup detector).

Thanks,
Nick

  reply index

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-12 19:36 [patch V2 00/29] lockup_detector: Cure hotplug deadlocks and replace duct tape Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 01/29] hardlockup_detector: Provide interface to stop/restart perf events Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:40   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 02/29] perf/x86/intel: Sanitize PMU HT bug workaround Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:40   ` [tip:core/urgent] perf/x86/intel, watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 03/29] lockup_detector: Provide interface to stop from poweroff() Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:40   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 04/29] parisc: Use lockup_detector_stop() Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14  8:59   ` Helge Deller
2017-09-14 13:46     ` Don Zickus
2017-09-14 10:41   ` [tip:core/urgent] parisc, watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 05/29] lockup_detector: Remove broken suspend/resume interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:41   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 06/29] lockup_detector: Rework cpu hotplug locking Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:41   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Rework CPU " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 07/29] lockup_detector: Rename watchdog_proc_mutex Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:42   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 08/29] lockup_detector: Mark hardlockup_detector_disable() __init Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:42   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 09/29] lockup_detector/perf: Remove broken self disable on failure Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:43   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 10/29] lockup_detector/perf: Prevent cpu hotplug deadlock Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:43   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: Prevent CPU " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 11/29] lockup_detector: Remove park_in_progress obfuscation Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 12/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup stub functions Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:44   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Clean up " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 13/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup the ifdef maze Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:44   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Clean up the #ifdef maze tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 14/29] lockup_detector: Split out cpumask write function Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:45   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 15/29] smpboot/threads: Avoid runtime allocation Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:45   ` [tip:core/urgent] smpboot/threads, watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 16/29] lockup_detector: Create new thread handling infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:45   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 17/29] lockup_detector: Get rid of the thread teardown/setup dance Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:46   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 18/29] lockup_detector: Further simplify sysctl handling Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:46   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 19/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup header mess Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:47   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Clean up " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 20/29] lockup_detector/sysctl: Get rid of the ifdeffery Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:47   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/sysctl: Get rid of the #ifdeffery tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 21/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup sysctl variable name space Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:47   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/sysctl: Clean up " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 22/29] lockup_detector: Make watchdog_nmi_reconfigure() two stage Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:48   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core, powerpc: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03  0:29   ` [patch V2 22/29] lockup_detector: " Michael Ellerman
2017-10-03  6:50     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03  7:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03 10:01         ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2017-10-03 10:56           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03 11:36       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-03 12:13         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03 13:20           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03 19:27             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-04  5:53               ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-05 16:17               ` Don Zickus
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 23/29] lockup_detector: Get rid of the racy update loop Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:48   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 24/29] lockup_detector/perf: Implement init time perf validation Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:48   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 25/29] lockup_detector: Implement init time detection of perf Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-13 18:02   ` Don Zickus
2017-09-13 18:05     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14  5:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-14 10:49   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 26/29] lockup_detector/perf: Implement CPU enable replacement Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:49   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 27/29] lockup_detector: Use new perf CPU enable mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:50   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 28/29] lockup_detector/perf: Simplify deferred event destroy Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:50   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 29/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup hotplug locking mess Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:50   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup: Clean up " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-13 18:06 ` [patch V2 00/29] lockup_detector: Cure hotplug deadlocks and replace duct tape Don Zickus
2017-09-14  5:27   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-14  8:11   ` Thomas Gleixner

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