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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald@jandi.co.nz>,
	Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH -tip 0/5] kprobes: Abolish jprobe APIs
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 12:41:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171009124127.616e1fc3@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171009103317.5701528f@lwn.net>

On Mon, 9 Oct 2017 10:33:17 -0600
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Oct 2017 12:20:35 -0400
> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> 
> > > > SAVE_REGS_IF_SUPPORTED - Similar to SAVE_REGS but the registering of a
> > > >       ftrace_ops on an architecture that does not support passing of regs
> > > >       will not fail with this flag set. But the callback must check if
> > > >       regs is NULL or not to determine if the architecture supports it.
> > > > 
> > > > RECURSION_SAFE - By default, a wrapper is added around the callback to
> > > >       make sure that recursion of the function does not occur. That is
> > > >       if a function within the callback itself is also traced, ftrace      
> > > 
> > > s/within the/called by the/    
> > 
> > I put in "within" because it is usually a function that is nested
> > within a function called by the callback. This bug has come up with
> > "gotchas", where some function that the callback calls has a path to a
> > function that was unexpectedly traced.
> > 
> > The issue hasn't been caused by a function being traced that was
> > directly called by the callback. It is usually some deeper nested
> > function.
> > 
> > I don't want to limit it to just checking functions that the callback
> > calls. Thoughts on how to stress this?  
> 
> "if a function that is called as a result of the callback's execution is
> also traced" ?

Sure, I'm not sure I could come up with a better way to say it.

> 
> > > > IPMODIFY - Requires SAVE_REGS set. If the callback is to "hijack" the
> > > >       traced function (have another function called instead of the traced
> > > >       function), it requires setting this flag. This is what live kernel
> > > >       patches uses. Without this flag the pt_regs->ip can not be modified.
> > > >       Note, only one ftrace_ops with IPMODIFY set may be registered to
> > > >       any given function at a time.      
> > > 
> > > I assume this requires being able to get the regs too?      
> > 
> > Yes, this is why I stated "Requires SAVE_REGS" which would pass the
> > regs to the callback. Should I rewrite that somehow?  
> 
> No, just ship me another cup of coffee and that one should be OK.  Though
> perhaps if you'd spelled out the flag completely I wouldn't have been so
> dense :)

OK OK, I'll extend the names.

> 
> > > > If a glob is used to set the filter, to remove unwanted matches the
> > > > ftrace_set_notrace() can also be used.
> > > > 
> > > >   int ftrace_set_notrace(struct ftrace_ops *ops, unsigned char *buf,
> > > > 			 int len, int reset);
> > > > 
> > > > This takes the same parameters as ftrace_set_filter() but will add the
> > > > functions it finds to not be traced. This doesn't remove them from the
> > > > filter itself, but keeps them from being traced. If @reset is set,
> > > > the filter is cleaded but the functions that match @buf will still not      
> > > 
> > > cleaded? :)    
> > 
> > Hmm, I'll have to be more descriptive.
> >   
> > >     
> > > > be traced (the callback will not be called on those functions).      
> > > 
> > > So how do you clead the "notrace" list?    
> > 
> > With passing in reset non-zero. I'll add that.  
> 
> My confusion remains here.  The text says that if reset is "set", then the
> "notrace" list remains in place.  So a non-zero "reset" value will remove
> previous notrace entries, along with the filter itself?  So if you wanted
> to clear the notrace list entirely you would use buf="", reset=1?  It would
> be good to be explicit there.

Ah I see what you mean. I'll try to be more explicit. A non-zero value
for reset means to clear the notrace buffer before making modifications.
In fact, I think the text is a bit more confusing, as I don't believe
that this function even modifies the "set_filter" list, even if reset
is set.

And yes, to clear all functions in either the set_filter or set_notrace
lists just pass in (&ops, NULL, 0, 1)

I'll start working on this document and post a real patch.

Thanks again for the review.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-09 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-05 23:13 [RFC PATCH -tip 0/5] kprobes: Abolish jprobe APIs Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:13 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 1/5] kprobes: Use ENOTSUPP instead of ENOSYS Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20  8:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-20 15:51     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 2/5] kprobes: Abolish jprobe APIs Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:26   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes: Disable the jprobes APIs tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 3/5] kprobes: Disable jprobe test code Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:26   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes: Disable the jprobes " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 4/5] kprobes: Remove jprobe sample code Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:27   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes: Remove the jprobes " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 5/5] kprobes: docs: Remove jprobe related document Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:27   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes/docs: Remove jprobes related documents tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:35 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 0/5] kprobes: Abolish jprobe APIs Kees Cook
2017-10-05 23:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-06  0:06     ` Kees Cook
2017-10-06  4:49     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-06 12:58       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-06 15:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-07  5:24         ` Stafford Horne
2017-10-09 16:48           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-07  8:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-09 16:45           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-07  9:35         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-09 16:59           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-09 15:33         ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-10-09 16:20           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-09 16:33             ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-10-09 16:41               ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2017-10-09 18:10           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-10 14:02           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-06  0:32   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-06  1:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-06  4:47       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-20 13:32   ` Kees Cook
2017-10-20 15:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-20 16:28       ` Kees Cook
2017-10-21  8:06         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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