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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs, mm: account filp and names caches to kmemcg
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 20:17:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171009181754.37svpqljub2goojr@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171009180409.z3mpk3m7m75hjyfv@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon 09-10-17 20:04:09, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [CC Johannes - the thread starts
> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20171005222144.123797-1-shakeelb@google.com]
> 
> On Mon 09-10-17 10:52:44, Greg Thelen wrote:
[...]
> > A few ideas on how to make it more flexible:
> > 
> > a) Go back to memcg oom killing within memcg charging.  This runs risk
> >    of oom killing while caller holds locks which oom victim selection or
> >    oom victim termination may need.  Google's been running this way for
> >    a while.

We can actually reopen this discussion now that the oom handling is
async due to the oom_reaper. At least for the v2 interface. I would have
to think about it much more but the primary concern for this patch was
whether we really need/want to charge short therm objects which do not
outlive a single syscall.
 
> > b) Have every syscall return do something similar to page fault handler:
> >    kmem allocations in oom memcg mark the current task as needing an oom
> >    check return NULL.  If marked oom, syscall exit would use
> >    mem_cgroup_oom_synchronize() before retrying the syscall.  Seems
> >    risky.  I doubt every syscall is compatible with such a restart.

yes, this is simply a no go

> > c) Overcharge kmem to oom memcg and queue an async memcg limit checker,
> >    which will oom kill if needed.

This is what we have max limit for.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-09 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-05 22:21 [PATCH] fs, mm: account filp and names caches to kmemcg Shakeel Butt
2017-10-06  7:59 ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 19:33   ` Shakeel Butt
2017-10-09  6:24     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-09 17:52       ` Greg Thelen
2017-10-09 18:04         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-09 18:17           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-10-10  9:10             ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 22:21               ` Shakeel Butt
2017-10-11  9:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-09 20:26         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-10  9:14           ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 14:17             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-10 14:24               ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-12 19:03                 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-12 23:57                   ` Greg Thelen
2017-10-13  6:51                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-13  6:35                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-13  7:00                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-13 15:24                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-24 12:18                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-24 17:54                           ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-24 16:06                         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-24 16:22                           ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-24 17:23                             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-24 17:55                               ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-24 18:58                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-24 20:15                                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-25  6:51                                     ` Greg Thelen
2017-10-25  7:15                                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-25 13:11                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-25 14:12                                           ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-25 16:44                                             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-25 17:29                                               ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-25 18:11                                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-25 19:00                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-25 21:13                                                     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-25 22:49                                                       ` Greg Thelen
2017-10-26  7:49                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-26 12:45                                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-26 14:31                                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-26 19:56                                                           ` Greg Thelen
2017-10-27  8:20                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-27 20:50                                               ` Shakeel Butt
2017-10-30  8:29                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-30 19:28                                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2017-10-31  8:00                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-31 16:49                                                       ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-31 18:50                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-24 15:45                     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-24 16:30                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 23:32 ` Al Viro

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