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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@redhat.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ast@kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] bpf: add a bpf_override_function helper
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:14:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171111081455.qx4rodxldofbzypb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171110171428.hrw5cpxy4sgzf7mn@destiny>


* Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 10:34:59AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > @@ -551,6 +578,10 @@ static const struct bpf_func_proto *kprobe_prog_func_proto(enum bpf_func_id func
> > >  		return &bpf_get_stackid_proto;
> > >  	case BPF_FUNC_perf_event_read_value:
> > >  		return &bpf_perf_event_read_value_proto;
> > > +	case BPF_FUNC_override_return:
> > > +		pr_warn_ratelimited("%s[%d] is installing a program with bpf_override_return helper that may cause unexpected behavior!",
> > > +				    current->comm, task_pid_nr(current));
> > > +		return &bpf_override_return_proto;
> > 
> > So if this new functionality is used we'll always print this into the syslog?
> > 
> > The warning is also a bit passive aggressive about informing the user: what 
> > unexpected behavior can happen, what is the worst case?
> > 
> 
> It's modeled after the other warnings bpf will spit out, but with this feature
> you are skipping a function and instead returning some arbitrary value, so
> anything could go wrong if you mess something up.  For instance I screwed up my
> initial test case and made every IO submitted return an error instead of just on
> the one file system I was attempting to test, so all sorts of hilarity ensued.

Ok, then for the x86 bits:

  NAK-ed-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>

One of the major advantages of having an in-kernel BPF sandbox is to never crash 
the kernel - and allowing BPF programs to just randomly modify the return value of 
kernel functions sounds immensely broken to me.

(And yes, I realize that kprobes are used here as a vehicle, but the point 
remains.)

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-11  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-07 20:28 [PATCH 0/2][v5] Add the ability to do BPF directed error injection Josef Bacik
2017-11-07 20:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] bpf: add a bpf_override_function helper Josef Bacik
2017-11-08  2:28   ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-11-10  9:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-10 17:14     ` Josef Bacik
2017-11-11  8:14       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-11-11 11:51         ` Josef Bacik
2017-11-12  6:49         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-11-12 10:38           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-13 15:57             ` Josef Bacik
2017-11-15  7:34               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-07 20:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] samples/bpf: add a test for bpf_override_return Josef Bacik
2017-11-08  2:29   ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-11-07 21:43 ` [PATCH 0/2][v5] Add the ability to do BPF directed error injection Alexei Starovoitov
2017-11-10  9:06   ` David Miller
2017-11-10  9:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-11  3:18 ` David Miller
2017-11-11  8:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-11  9:25     ` David Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-02 14:37 [PATCH 0/2][v4] " Josef Bacik
2017-11-02 14:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] bpf: add a bpf_override_function helper Josef Bacik
2017-11-02 23:12   ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-11-03 14:31     ` Josef Bacik
2017-11-03 16:52       ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-11-03 21:07         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-11-01 17:00 [PATCH 0/2][v3] Add the ability to do BPF directed error injection Josef Bacik
2017-11-01 17:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] bpf: add a bpf_override_function helper Josef Bacik
2017-11-01 17:18   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-11-02  1:08   ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-10-31 15:45 [PATCH 0/2][v2] Add the ability to do BPF directed error injection Josef Bacik
2017-10-31 15:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] bpf: add a bpf_override_function helper Josef Bacik
2017-11-01  4:47   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-10-30 21:19 [PATCH 0/2] Add the ability to do BPF directed error injection Josef Bacik
2017-10-30 21:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] bpf: add a bpf_override_function helper Josef Bacik
2017-10-31  1:35   ` Alexei Starovoitov

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