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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Marc Gonzalez <marc_gonzalez@sigmadesigns.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Jonathan Austin <jonathan.austin@arm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@sigmadesigns.com>,
	Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Improving udelay/ndelay on platforms where that is possible
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 13:43:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171207124326.GC24547@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171115131351.GE31757@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 01:51:54PM +0100, Marc Gonzalez wrote:
> > On 01/11/2017 20:38, Marc Gonzalez wrote:
> > 
> > > OK, I'll just send my patch, and then crawl back under my rock.
> > 
> > Linus,
> > 
> > As promised, the patch is provided below. And as promised, I will
> > no longer bring this up on LKML.
> > 
> > FWIW, I have checked that the computed value matches the expected
> > value for all HZ and delay_us, and for a few clock frequencies,
> > using the following program:
> > 
> > $ cat delays.c
> > #include <stdio.h>
> > #define MEGA 1000000u
> > typedef unsigned int uint;
> > typedef unsigned long long u64;
> > #define DIV_ROUND_UP(n,d) (((n) + (d) - 1) / (d))
> > 
> > static const uint HZ_tab[] = { 100, 250, 300, 1000 };
> > 
> > static void check_cycle_count(uint freq, uint HZ, uint delay_us)
> > {
> > 	uint UDELAY_MULT = (2147 * HZ) + (483648 * HZ / MEGA);
> > 	uint lpj = DIV_ROUND_UP(freq, HZ);
> > 	uint computed = ((u64)lpj * delay_us * UDELAY_MULT >> 31) + 1;
> > 	uint expected = DIV_ROUND_UP((u64)delay_us * freq, MEGA);
> > 
> > 	if (computed != expected)
> > 		printf("freq=%u HZ=%u delay_us=%u comp=%u exp=%u\n", freq, HZ, delay_us, computed, expected);
> > }
> > 
> > int main(void)
> > {
> > 	uint idx, delay_us, freq;
> > 
> > 	for (freq = 3*MEGA; freq <= 100*MEGA; freq += 3*MEGA)
> > 		for (idx = 0; idx < sizeof HZ_tab / sizeof *HZ_tab; ++idx)
> > 			for (delay_us = 1; delay_us <= 2000; ++delay_us)
> > 				check_cycle_count(freq, HZ_tab[idx], delay_us);
> > 
> > 	return 0;
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- >8 --
> > Subject: [PATCH] ARM: Tweak clock-based udelay implementation
> > 
> > In 9f8197980d87a ("delay: Add explanation of udelay() inaccuracy")
> > Russell pointed out that loop-based delays may return early.
> > 
> > On the arm platform, delays may be either loop-based or clock-based.
> > 
> > This patch tweaks the clock-based implementation so that udelay(N)
> > is guaranteed to spin at least N microseconds.
> 
> As I've already said, I don't want this, because it encourages people
> to use too-small delays in driver code, and if we merge it then you
> will look at your data sheet, decide it says "you need to wait 10us"
> and write in your driver "udelay(10)" which will break on the loops
> based delay.
> 
> udelay() needs to offer a consistent interface so that drivers know
> what to expect no matter what the implementation is.  Making one
> implementation conform to your ideas while leaving the other
> implementations with other expectations is a recipe for bugs.

udelay() needs to be consistent across platforms, and yes, udelay(10)
is expected to delay at least 10usec.

If that is not true on your platform, _fix your platform_. But it is
not valid to reject patches fixing other platforms, just because your
platform is broken.

									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-07 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-31 16:15 [RFC] Improving udelay/ndelay on platforms where that is possible Marc Gonzalez
2017-10-31 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-31 16:56   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-10-31 17:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-31 17:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-01  0:23       ` Doug Anderson
2017-11-01  9:26         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-11-01 15:53           ` Doug Anderson
2017-12-07 12:31             ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 19:28           ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-01 20:30             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-10-31 16:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-11-01 17:53 ` Alan Cox
2017-11-01 19:03   ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-01 19:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-01 19:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-01 19:38       ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-15 12:51         ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-15 13:13           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-11-16 15:26             ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-16 15:36               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-11-16 15:47                 ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-16 16:08                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-11-16 16:26                     ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-16 16:32                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-11-16 16:42                         ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-16 17:05                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-11-16 21:05                             ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-16 22:15                               ` Doug Anderson
2017-11-16 23:22                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-11-20 17:38                                   ` Doug Anderson
2017-11-20 18:31                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-11-16 16:47                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-11-16 16:51                         ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-11-16 17:00                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-12-07 12:43             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-11-15 18:45           ` Doug Anderson
2017-11-01 19:36     ` Alan Cox
2017-11-01 19:39     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-01 19:48     ` Baruch Siach
2017-11-02 16:12       ` Boris Brezillon

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