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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, "w@1wt.eu" <w@1wt.eu>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 16:09:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180503230905.GA98604@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180503224217.GR2714@sirena.org.uk>

* Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> [180503 22:44]:
> On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 08:52:29PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> 
> > As for -next, me and others stopped reporting bugs in it, because when we do
> > we tend to get flamed for the "noise". Is anyone aware (or cares) that mips
> > and nds32 images don't build ? Soaking clothes in an empty bathtub won't make
> > them wet, and bugs in code which no one builds, much less tests or uses, won't
> > be found.
> 
> You've been flamed for testing -next?  That's not been my experience and
> frankly it's pretty horrifying that it's happening.  Testing is pretty
> much the whole point of -next existing in the first place so you have to
> wonder why people are putting their trees there if they don't want
> testing.  I have seen a few issues with people reporting bugs on old
> versions of -next but otherwise...

Yes I agree testing Linux next is very important. That's the best way for
maintainers to ensure a usable -rc1 after a merge window. And then for
the -rc cycle, there not much of need for chasing bugs to get things working.

Bugs reported for Linux next often seem to get fixed or reverted faster
compared to the -rc cycle too. I think that's because people realize that
their code will not get merged until it's been fixed.

So some daily testing of Linux next can save a lot scrambling after the
merge window :)

Users don't usually upgrade kernels until after later -rc releases or only
after major releases so that probably explains some of the -rc cycle fixes.

Regards,

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-03 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-01 16:38 bug-introducing patches Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 19:44 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 20:00   ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 20:33     ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-01 20:42       ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 20:54     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 21:15       ` Mark Brown
2018-05-02  8:11         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-05-02 19:46           ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03  2:05             ` Mark Brown via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03  3:10               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-03  3:52                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 12:03                   ` Greg KH
2018-05-03 22:42                   ` Mark Brown
2018-05-03 23:09                     ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2018-05-04 14:21                       ` Ulf Hansson
2018-05-09  8:44                         ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09  8:47                           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-05-09  8:51                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-09  9:03                             ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09 10:47                               ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 10:55                                 ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-09 12:43                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 12:47                                     ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-15 10:42                                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2018-05-15 11:54                                       ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 14:05                                 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09 22:09                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-10 13:36                                     ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 22:01                                       ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 15:57                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-09 21:45                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 16:04                                 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-09 21:51                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 19:35                                 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-09 21:58                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-10  3:15                                 ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-10 15:57                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-10 22:05                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-11  8:47                                 ` David Sterba
2018-05-12  4:03                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-12  4:38                                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-12 18:34                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-13 13:53                                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-05-14  8:36                                 ` Ulf Hansson
2018-05-14 21:45                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-17  5:10                                   ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 16:03                             ` Jiri Kosina
2018-05-10 16:47                               ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-14  7:53                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14  8:00                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14  8:12                                     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14  8:29                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14  8:34                                         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14  8:40                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14  8:48                                             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14  9:25                                               ` Fengguang Wu
2018-05-11  2:10                               ` Mark Brown
2018-05-08  2:34                       ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08  3:48                         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-08 14:49                           ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-09  8:13                             ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 15:36                             ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-08 20:29                           ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-08 20:40                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-08 20:55                               ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08 20:59                                 ` David Lang
2018-05-08 21:43                                   ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-08 21:51                                     ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08 22:41                                     ` James Bottomley
2018-05-08 21:26                                 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-08 21:00                             ` Ken Moffat
2018-05-08 22:15                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-10 16:39                               ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-09  4:47                             ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-08 13:58                         ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-08  2:39                     ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-01 22:02       ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-02  4:30         ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-02 19:42           ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-02 20:02             ` Willy Tarreau
2018-07-14 17:38               ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-14 18:37                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
2018-07-14 19:47                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-14 20:40                     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-07-14 21:09                       ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-15  5:57                         ` Willy Tarreau
2018-07-15  8:54                 ` Greg KH
2018-07-15 14:50                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-07-15 20:15                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-03 11:08       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Jani Nikula
2018-05-03 14:33         ` James Bottomley
2018-05-03 14:48           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 15:06             ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 15:27               ` James Bottomley
2018-05-03 15:43                 ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 17:17                   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-03 17:39                     ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 18:10                   ` James Bottomley
2018-05-03 15:56                 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 18:58         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-02 15:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-02 19:51   ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-02 20:41     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-03  0:06       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-03  0:38         ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03  2:30           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 14:55           ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 15:49             ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 16:02               ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 16:50                 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-03 17:09                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 11:48         ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 14:46         ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 14:52           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 15:01             ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 16:00               ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 16:14                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 16:35                   ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 17:29                     ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 17:57                       ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 18:12                         ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 18:46                           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 19:03                           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 16:54           ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 17:34             ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 18:20               ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 18:55                 ` Greg KH
2018-05-03 19:14                   ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 19:17                     ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 19:04                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-04  9:57                 ` David Howells
2018-05-04 12:31                   ` Jani Nikula
2018-05-04 13:09                     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-04 17:40                       ` Greg KH
2018-05-04 21:13                         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-04 21:38                           ` James Bottomley
2018-05-04 21:51                             ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-04 23:35                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-05  4:23                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-05  5:02                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-05 16:37                                     ` Greg KH
2018-05-05  5:27                                 ` Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
2018-05-03 11:43       ` Al Viro
2018-05-02 15:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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