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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/6] x86/alternatives: use temporary mm for text poking
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:14:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180829161400.GV24124@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXe9CUMo3c44UtmkxD4w68PvmoypdCyvCFvWiZVuxy=sQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 08:46:04AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:11:46AM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
> 
> >> +     pte_clear(poking_mm, poking_addr, ptep);
> >> +
> >> +     /*
> >> +      * __flush_tlb_one_user() performs a redundant TLB flush when PTI is on,
> >> +      * as it also flushes the corresponding "user" address spaces, which
> >> +      * does not exist.
> >> +      *
> >> +      * Poking, however, is already very inefficient since it does not try to
> >> +      * batch updates, so we ignore this problem for the time being.
> >> +      *
> >> +      * Since the PTEs do not exist in other kernel address-spaces, we do
> >> +      * not use __flush_tlb_one_kernel(), which when PTI is on would cause
> >> +      * more unwarranted TLB flushes.
> >> +      */
> >
> > yuck :-), but yeah.
> 
> I'm sure we covered this ad nauseum when PTI was being developed, but
> we were kind of in a rush, so:
> 
> Why do we do INVPCID at all?  The fallback path for non-INVPCID
> systems uses invalidate_user_asid(), which should be faster than the
> invpcid path.  And doesn't do a redundant flush in this case.

I don't remember; and you forgot to (re)add dhansen.

Logically INVPCID_SINGLE should be faster since it pokes out a single
translation in another PCID instead of killing all user translations.

Is it just a matter of (current) chips implementing INVLPCID_SINGLE
inefficient, or something else?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-29 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-29  8:11 [RFC PATCH 0/6] x86: text_poke() fixes Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] x86/alternative: assert text_mutex is taken Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  8:59   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:11     ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 19:36       ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 20:13         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-29 20:44           ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 21:00             ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-29 22:56               ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-30  2:26               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-30  5:23                 ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] x86/mm: temporary mm struct Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  9:49   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 15:41     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:54       ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 21:38         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-30  1:38       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-30  1:59         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-31  4:42           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 15:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] fork: provide a function for copying init_mm Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  9:54   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] x86/alternatives: initializing temporary mm for patching Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 13:21   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:45     ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] x86/alternatives: use temporary mm for text poking Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  9:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-08-29 15:46     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:14       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-08-29 16:32         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:37           ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] x86/alternatives: remove text_poke() return value Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  9:52   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:15     ` Nadav Amit

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