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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/6] x86/alternative: assert text_mutex is taken
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 11:26:49 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180830112649.4b774f401d99a8b98e12008c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180829210006.GA7166@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:00:06 -0700
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 08:44:47PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > at 1:13 PM, Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 07:36:22PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > >> at 10:11 AM, Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >>> at 1:59 AM, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:11:42 -0700
> > >>>> Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com> wrote:
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>> Use lockdep to ensure that text_mutex is taken when text_poke() is
> > >>>>> called.
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Actually it is not always taken, specifically when it is called by kgdb,
> > >>>>> so take the lock in these cases.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Can we really take a mutex in kgdb context?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> kgdb_arch_remove_breakpoint
> > >>>> <- dbg_deactivate_sw_breakpoints
> > >>>>  <- kgdb_reenter_check
> > >>>>     <- kgdb_handle_exception
> > >>>>        <- __kgdb_notify
> > >>>>          <- kgdb_ll_trap
> > >>>>            <- do_int3
> > >>>>          <- kgdb_notify
> > >>>>            <- die notifier
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> kgdb_arch_set_breakpoint
> > >>>> <- dbg_activate_sw_breakpoints
> > >>>>  <- kgdb_reenter_check
> > >>>>     <- kgdb_handle_exception
> > >>>>         ...
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Both seems called in exception context, so we can not take a mutex lock.
> > >>>> I think kgdb needs a special path.
> > >>> 
> > >>> You are correct, but I don’t want a special path. Presumably text_mutex is
> > >>> guaranteed not to be taken according to the code.
> > >>> 
> > >>> So I guess the only concern is lockdep. Do you see any problem if I change
> > >>> mutex_lock() into mutex_trylock()? It should always succeed, and I can add a
> > >>> warning and a failure path if it fails for some reason.
> > >> 
> > >> Err.. This will not work. I think I will drop this patch, since I cannot
> > >> find a proper yet simple assertion. Creating special path just for the
> > >> assertion seems wrong.
> > > 
> > > It's probably worth expanding the comment for text_poke() to call out
> > > the kgdb case and reference kgdb_arch_{set,remove}_breakpoint(), whose
> > > code and comments make it explicitly clear why its safe for them to
> > > call text_poke() without acquiring the lock.  Might prevent someone
> > > from going down this path again in the future.
> > 
> > I thought that the whole point of the patch was to avoid comments, and
> > instead enforce the right behavior. I don’t understand well enough kgdb
> > code, so I cannot attest it does the right thing. What happens if
> > kgdb_do_roundup==0?
> 
> As is, the comment is wrong because there are obviously cases where
> text_poke() is called without text_mutex being held.  I can't attest
> to the kgdb code either.  My thought was to document the exception so
> that if someone does want to try and enforce the right behavior they
> can dive right into the problem instead of having to learn of the kgdb
> gotcha the hard way.  Maybe a FIXME is the right approach?

No, kgdb ensures that the text_mutex has not been held right before
calling text_poke. So they also take care the text_mutex. I guess
kgdb_arch_{set,remove}_breakpoint() is supposed to be run under
a special circumstance, like stopping all other threads/cores.
In that case, we can just check the text_mutex is not locked.
 
Anyway, kgdb is a very rare courner case. I think if CONFIG_KGDB is
enabled, lockdep and any assertion should be disabled, since kgdb
can tweak anything in the kernel with unexpected ways...

Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-08-30  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-29  8:11 [RFC PATCH 0/6] x86: text_poke() fixes Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] x86/alternative: assert text_mutex is taken Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  8:59   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:11     ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 19:36       ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 20:13         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-29 20:44           ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 21:00             ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-29 22:56               ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-30  2:26               ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2018-08-30  5:23                 ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] x86/mm: temporary mm struct Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  9:49   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 15:41     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:54       ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 21:38         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-30  1:38       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-30  1:59         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-31  4:42           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 15:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] fork: provide a function for copying init_mm Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  9:54   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] x86/alternatives: initializing temporary mm for patching Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 13:21   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:45     ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] x86/alternatives: use temporary mm for text poking Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  9:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-08-29 15:46     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-08-29 16:32         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:37           ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-29  8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] x86/alternatives: remove text_poke() return value Nadav Amit
2018-08-29  9:52   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:15     ` Nadav Amit

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