From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Redoing eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) with isolated CPUs in mind (for KVM to isolate its guests per CPU)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:03:37 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180919010337.GC8537@350D> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1534801939.10027.24.camel@amazon.co.uk>
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 09:52:19PM +0000, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 14:48 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > Of course, after the long (and entirely unrelated) discussion about
> > the TLB flushing bug we had, I'm starting to worry about my own
> > competence, and maybe I'm missing something really fundamental, and
> > the XPFO patches do something else than what I think they do, or my
> > "hey, let's use our Meltdown code" idea has some fundamental weakness
> > that I'm missing.
>
> The interesting part is taking the user (and other) pages out of the
> kernel's 1:1 physmap.
>
> It's the *kernel* we don't want being able to access those pages,
> because of the multitude of unfixable cache load gadgets.
I am missing why we need this since the kernel can't access
(SMAP) unless we go through to the copy/to/from interface
or execute any of the user pages. Is it because of the dependency
on the availability of those features?
Balbir Singh.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-19 1:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-20 21:25 Redoing eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) with isolated CPUs in mind (for KVM to isolate its guests per CPU) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-08-20 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <1534801939.10027.24.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2018-08-20 22:18 ` Kees Cook
2018-08-20 22:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-20 22:35 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-08-20 22:59 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-20 23:14 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-20 23:26 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-20 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-21 9:57 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-21 14:01 ` Liran Alon
2018-08-21 14:22 ` David Woodhouse
2018-08-21 23:04 ` Liran Alon
2018-08-30 16:00 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-08-31 15:26 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-01 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-03 14:51 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-12 15:37 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-13 6:11 ` Juerg Haefliger
2018-09-17 10:01 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-17 10:19 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-17 13:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-14 17:06 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-09-17 9:51 ` Julian Stecklina
2018-09-18 23:00 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-09-24 14:45 ` Stecklina, Julian
2018-10-15 8:07 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 11:00 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-10-24 15:00 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-03 15:26 ` Andi Kleen
2018-09-04 9:37 ` Julian Stecklina
[not found] ` <CACfEFw_h5uup-anKZwfBcWMJB7gHxb9NEPTRSUAY0+t11RiQbg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-09-03 15:36 ` Andi Kleen
2018-09-07 21:30 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-08-31 8:43 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-19 1:03 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2018-09-19 15:43 ` Jonathan Adams
2018-09-23 2:33 ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-25 14:12 ` Stecklina, Julian
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