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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	bigeasy@linutronix.de,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	daniel.wagner@siemens.com, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Problem] Cache line starvation
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 10:28:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181003082842.GN26858@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1810031005210.1435@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 10:07:05AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 13:22, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:02:26PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > > We reproducibly observe cache line starvation on a Core2Duo E6850 (2
> > > > cores), a i5-6400 SKL (4 cores) and on a NXP LS2044A ARM Cortex-A72 (4
> > > > cores).

> Except that the ARM64 ticket locks are not preventing the starvation
> issue. Neither do the qrlocks on ARM64 on later kernels.

That A72 is ARMv8-A afaict, that doesn't have the fancy LSE bits (which
are new in ARMv8.1) on and thus ends up using LL/SC. And LL/SC has
similar issues as cmpxchg loops.

AFAICT Cortex-A75 is the first that has LSE on (that's an ARMv8.2-A).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-21 12:02 [Problem] Cache line starvation Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-09-21 12:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-21 12:50   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-09-21 12:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-21 12:54   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-03  7:51   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-03  8:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-03  8:28       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-10-03 10:43         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-03  8:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26  7:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26  8:04   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-26 12:53 ` Will Deacon
2018-09-27 14:25   ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2018-09-27 14:41     ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2018-09-27 14:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-28  9:05         ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2018-09-28 15:26           ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2018-09-28 19:26         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-09-28 19:34           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-02  6:31 ` Daniel Wagner

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