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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:33:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181010223319.GA31256@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181010221611.GA5711@localhost>

Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>:
> > The words removed by this patch are a political statement.
> 
> Choosing not to say those words is a political statement.

The situation is not symmetrical.  Choosing the protected classes
in the CoC is a *change* in its implied politics. 

It's a change that is, obviously from LKML traffic, very contentious.
If this were a tpurely technical matter, it would be described as
not backwards-compatible.

It's a change that, I submit, should not have been made without a clear
consensus *in favor* of the change.

Our culture has a process for this. It's called RFCs. If we want to
designate protected classes to be called out in conductt guidelines,
an RFC should be floated first and the change should be made only
if rough consensus has been achieved.
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-10 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-07  8:51 [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-07 11:35 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-07 17:18   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-08  2:29     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-08 14:12       ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:27         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-08 14:36           ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:30         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 15:43           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08  8:55   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 12:02   ` Mark Brown
2018-10-08 15:42   ` Alan Cox
2018-10-08 16:14     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 20:55 ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-10 21:15   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2018-10-10 22:16   ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 22:33     ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2018-10-10 23:35       ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-11  8:12     ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-11  6:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2018-10-17  7:19 Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-17  9:13 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-17  9:31   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-17 13:32     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-17 15:22       ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 15:21     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 15:49       ` James Bottomley
2018-10-17 16:00         ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 18:36       ` Mark Brown
2018-10-17 13:45   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-17 16:18   ` Joe Perches

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