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From: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, tomi.valkeinen@iki.fi
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:00:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181017160036.GA18198@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1539791355.3769.35.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 08:49:15AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 08:21 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > People in underrepresented and commonly marginalized groups,
> > especially those more commonly overlooked, don't always know if a
> > given group has taken their particular group into account or given
> > any thought to it. Explicit inclusion helps, and this is a standard
> > guideline often cited for good codes of conduct.
> 
> Actually, that's not a good thing to do in a vacuum: you have to be
> really careful about how you do this from a legal point of view.  The
> argument over whether enumerating specific rights or classes disparages
> others has been going on for centuries.  To give you an example of how
> far back it goes: it's the reason for the ninth amendment to the US
> constitution.
> 
> The commonly accepted legal way of doing this today is the statement
> 
> "examples of X include but are not limited to: ..."
> 
> which is thought to work in most jurisdictions and is what you'll find
> in all US corporate codes of conduct or ethics.

Which is a much better proposal than removing the list entirely.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-17 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-17  7:19 [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-17  9:13 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-17  9:31   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-17 13:32     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-17 15:22       ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 15:21     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 15:49       ` James Bottomley
2018-10-17 16:00         ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2018-10-17 18:36       ` Mark Brown
2018-10-17 13:45   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-17 16:18   ` Joe Perches
2018-10-22 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-10-07  8:51 Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-07 11:35 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-07 17:18   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-08  2:29     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-08 14:12       ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:27         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-08 14:36           ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:30         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 15:43           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08  8:55   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 12:02   ` Mark Brown
2018-10-08 15:42   ` Alan Cox
2018-10-08 16:14     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 20:55 ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-10 21:15   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2018-10-10 22:16   ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 22:33     ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-10 23:35       ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-11  8:12     ` Rainer Fiebig

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