From: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, tomi.valkeinen@iki.fi
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:00:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181017160036.GA18198@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1539791355.3769.35.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 08:49:15AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 08:21 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > People in underrepresented and commonly marginalized groups,
> > especially those more commonly overlooked, don't always know if a
> > given group has taken their particular group into account or given
> > any thought to it. Explicit inclusion helps, and this is a standard
> > guideline often cited for good codes of conduct.
>
> Actually, that's not a good thing to do in a vacuum: you have to be
> really careful about how you do this from a legal point of view. The
> argument over whether enumerating specific rights or classes disparages
> others has been going on for centuries. To give you an example of how
> far back it goes: it's the reason for the ninth amendment to the US
> constitution.
>
> The commonly accepted legal way of doing this today is the statement
>
> "examples of X include but are not limited to: ..."
>
> which is thought to work in most jurisdictions and is what you'll find
> in all US corporate codes of conduct or ethics.
Which is a much better proposal than removing the list entirely.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-17 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-17 7:19 [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-17 9:13 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 9:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-17 13:32 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-17 15:22 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 15:21 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 15:49 ` James Bottomley
2018-10-17 16:00 ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2018-10-17 18:36 ` Mark Brown
2018-10-17 13:45 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-17 16:18 ` Joe Perches
2018-10-22 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-10-07 8:51 Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-07 11:35 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-07 17:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-08 2:29 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-08 14:12 ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-08 14:36 ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 15:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 8:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 12:02 ` Mark Brown
2018-10-08 15:42 ` Alan Cox
2018-10-08 16:14 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 20:55 ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-10 21:15 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2018-10-10 22:16 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 22:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-10 23:35 ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-11 8:12 ` Rainer Fiebig
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