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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"acme@kernel.org" <acme@kernel.org>,
	"alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com" 
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	"jolsa@redhat.com" <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	"eranian@google.com" <eranian@google.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com"
	<alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com>,
	"mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"megha.dey@intel.com" <megha.dey@intel.com>,
	"frederic@kernel.org" <frederic@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] perf: Rewrite core context handling
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:50:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181016095056.GE4030@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E4F81A5E-C371-429D-AFEC-6F4B32971F09@fb.com>

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 08:31:37AM +0000, Song Liu wrote:

> The only suggestion I have right now is on which struct owns which
> data:
> 
> 1. perf_cpu_context owns two perf_event_context: ctx and *task_ctx. 
>    This is the same as right now. 

> 2. perf_event_context owns multiple perf_event_pmu_context: 
>    One perf_event_pmu_context for software groups;
>    One perf_event_pmu_context for each hardware PMU.

It does now already, right? Through the pmu_ctx_list we can, given an
perf_event_context, find all associated perf_event_pmu_context's.

> 3. perf_event_pmu_context owns RB tree of events. Since we don't 
>    need rotation across multiple hardware PMUs, the rotation is 
>    within same perf_event_pmu_context.  

By keeping the RB trees in perf_event_context, we get bigger trees,
which is more efficient (log(n+m) < log(n) + log(m))

Also, specifically, it means we only need a single merge sort /
iteration to schedule in a full context, instead of (again) doing 'n' of
them.

Also, given a context and a pmu, it is cheaper for finding the relevant
events; this is needed for big.little for instance. Something the
proposed patch doesn't fully flesh out.

> 4. perf_cpu_context owns multiple perf_cpu_pmu_context:
>    One perf_cpu_pmu_context for each hardware PMU.

What would we need that relation for?

>    perf_cpu_pmu_context is tot needed for software only groups(?).

Yes, that is a very good question; it mostly centers around what we want
to do with perf_event_attr::exclusive for software events -- which is
currently dodgy at best.

Also, allocating the structure and keeping it around is probably less
code than explicitly not doing it.

> 5. perf_cpu_pmu_context has two pointers of perf_event_pmu_context.

Instead of embedding the thing? Yeah, not sure. Either way around we'd
not want to free the CPU perf_event_pmu_context that is associated with
the perf_cpu_pmu_context, and embedding it saves a pointer chase.

Not sure it actually makes a lot of difference either way around.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-16  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-10 10:45 [RFC][PATCH] perf: Rewrite core context handling Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-11  7:50 ` Song Liu
2018-10-11  9:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-11 22:37     ` Song Liu
2018-10-12  9:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-12 14:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-13  8:31         ` Song Liu
2018-10-16  9:50           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-10-16 16:34             ` Song Liu
2018-10-16 18:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-16 18:24                 ` Song Liu
2018-10-12  7:04     ` Alexey Budankov
2018-10-12 11:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-15  7:26 ` Alexey Budankov
2018-10-15  8:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-15  8:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-15 17:29     ` Alexey Budankov
2018-10-15 18:31       ` Stephane Eranian
2018-10-16  6:39         ` Alexey Budankov
2018-10-16  9:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-15 22:09     ` Song Liu
2018-10-16 18:28       ` Song Liu
2018-10-17 11:06         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-17 16:43           ` Song Liu
2018-10-17 17:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-17 18:33               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-17 18:57                 ` Song Liu
2018-10-16 16:26 ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-16 18:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-17  8:57 ` Alexey Budankov
2018-10-17 15:01   ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-10-17 15:58     ` Alexey Budankov
2018-10-17 16:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-18  7:05     ` Alexey Budankov
2018-10-22 13:26 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-10-23  6:13 ` Song Liu
2018-10-23  6:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-15 11:17 ` Alexander Shishkin

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