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From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	peterx@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 5/5] vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual address
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 15:06:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190308200609.GA6969@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190308194845.GC26923@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 02:48:45PM -0500, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello Jeson,
> 
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 04:50:36PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > Just to make sure I understand here. For boosting through huge TLB, do 
> > you mean we can do that in the future (e.g by mapping more userspace 
> > pages to kenrel) or it can be done by this series (only about three 4K 
> > pages were vmapped per virtqueue)?
> 
> When I answered about the advantages of mmu notifier and I mentioned
> guaranteed 2m/gigapages where available, I overlooked the detail you
> were using vmap instead of kmap. So with vmap you're actually doing
> the opposite, it slows down the access because it will always use a 4k
> TLB even if QEMU runs on THP or gigapages hugetlbfs.
> 
> If there's just one page (or a few pages) in each vmap there's no need
> of vmap, the linearity vmap provides doesn't pay off in such
> case.
> 
> So likely there's further room for improvement here that you can
> achieve in the current series by just dropping vmap/vunmap.
> 
> You can just use kmap (or kmap_atomic if you're in preemptible
> section, should work from bh/irq).
> 
> In short the mmu notifier to invalidate only sets a "struct page *
> userringpage" pointer to NULL without calls to vunmap.
> 
> In all cases immediately after gup_fast returns you can always call
> put_page immediately (which explains why I'd like an option to drop
> FOLL_GET from gup_fast to speed it up).

By the way this is on my todo list, i want to merge HMM page snapshoting
with gup code which means mostly allowing to gup_fast without taking a
reference on the page (so without FOLL_GET). I hope to get to that some-
time before summer.

> 
> Then you can check the sequence_counter and inc/dec counter increased
> by _start/_end. That will tell you if the page you got and you called
> put_page to immediately unpin it or even to free it, cannot go away
> under you until the invalidate is called.
> 
> If sequence counters and counter tells that gup_fast raced with anyt
> mmu notifier invalidate you can just repeat gup_fast. Otherwise you're
> done, the page cannot go away under you, the host virtual to host
> physical mapping cannot change either. And the page is not pinned
> either. So you can just set the "struct page * userringpage = page"
> where "page" was the one setup by gup_fast.
> 
> When later the invalidate runs, you can just call set_page_dirty if
> gup_fast was called with "write = 1" and then you clear the pointer
> "userringpage = NULL".
> 
> When you need to read/write to the memory
> kmap/kmap_atomic(userringpage) should work.
> 
> In short because there's no hardware involvement here, the established
> mapping is just the pointer to the page, there is no need of setting
> up any pagetables or to do any TLB flushes (except on 32bit archs if
> the page is above the direct mapping but it never happens on 64bit
> archs).

Agree. The vmap is probably overkill if you only have a handfull of
them kmap will be faster.

Cheers,
Jérôme

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-08 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-06  7:18 [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 1/5] vhost: generalize adding used elem Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 2/5] vhost: fine grain userspace memory accessors Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:45   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-07  2:38     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 3/5] vhost: rename vq_iotlb_prefetch() to vq_meta_prefetch() Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 4/5] vhost: introduce helpers to get the size of metadata area Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:56   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-07  2:40     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 18:43   ` Souptick Joarder
2019-03-07  2:42     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 5/5] vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual address Jason Wang
2019-03-06 16:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07  2:45     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 15:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:09         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 19:38           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-07 20:17             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 21:27               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08  9:13                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:11                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-11  7:21                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 14:45                 ` Jan Kara
2019-03-08  8:31         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 15:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 17:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08  8:50         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 14:58           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-11  7:18             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 20:06             ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2019-03-11  7:40             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 12:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 13:43                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12  2:56                   ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:51                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  2:52                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:50                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  7:15                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 19:17       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  2:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  2:55           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  3:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  3:40               ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  3:43                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  3:45                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  9:15                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08  8:58         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 12:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 15:02             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 19:13           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 14:12 ` [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-11  7:13   ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 13:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 18:14       ` David Miller
2019-03-12  2:59         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:52           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  7:17             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 11:54               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 15:46                 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 20:04                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 20:53                     ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 21:11                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 21:19                         ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 21:53                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:02                             ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 22:50                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:57                                 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-13 16:05                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-13 16:37                         ` James Bottomley
2019-03-14 10:42                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-14 13:49                             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-14 19:33                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-15  4:39                                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  5:14           ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12  7:51             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  7:53               ` Jason Wang

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