From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Cc: "Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Felix Kuehling" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Ralph Campbell" <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@mellanox.com>,
"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] HMM updates for 5.1
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 18:24:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190319222445.GD3096@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190319141826.GJ7485@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com>
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 07:18:26AM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:13:40PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:05 PM Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:42:00AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:45 AM Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:33:57AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:19 AM Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:12:49AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 12:58:02 -0400 Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > >
> > > Right now i am trying to unify driver for device that have can support
> > > the mmu notifier approach through HMM. Unify to a superset of driver
> > > that can not abide by mmu notifier is on my todo list like i said but
> > > it comes after. I do not want to make the big jump in just one go. So
> > > i doing thing under HMM and thus in HMM namespace, but once i tackle
> > > the larger set i will move to generic namespace what make sense.
> > >
> > > This exact approach did happen several time already in the kernel. In
> > > the GPU sub-system we did it several time. First do something for couple
> > > devices that are very similar then grow to a bigger set of devices and
> > > generalise along the way.
> > >
> > > So i do not see what is the problem of me repeating that same pattern
> > > here again. Do something for a smaller set before tackling it on for
> > > a bigger set.
> >
> > All of that is fine, but when I asked about the ultimate trajectory
> > that replaces hmm_range_dma_map() with an updated / HMM-aware GUP
> > implementation, the response was that hmm_range_dma_map() is here to
> > stay. The issue is not with forking off a small side effort, it's the
> > plan to absorb that capability into a common implementation across
> > non-HMM drivers where possible.
>
> Just to get on the record in this thread.
>
> +1
>
> I think having an interface which handles the MMU notifier stuff for drivers is
> awesome but we need to agree that the trajectory is to help more drivers if
> possible.
>
Yes and i want to get there step by step not just in one giant leap.
It seems Dan would like to see this all one step and i believe this
is too risky and make the patchset much bigger and harder to review.
Cheers,
Jérôme
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-19 22:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-29 16:54 [PATCH 00/10] HMM updates for 5.1 jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm/hmm: use reference counting for HMM struct jglisse
2019-02-20 23:47 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-20 23:59 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-21 0:06 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-21 0:15 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-21 0:32 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-21 0:37 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-21 0:42 ` John Hubbard
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm/hmm: do not erase snapshot when a range is invalidated jglisse
2019-02-20 23:58 ` John Hubbard
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm/hmm: improve and rename hmm_vma_get_pfns() to hmm_range_snapshot() jglisse
2019-02-21 0:25 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-21 0:28 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm/hmm: improve and rename hmm_vma_fault() to hmm_range_fault() jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm/hmm: improve driver API to work and wait over a range jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm/hmm: add default fault flags to avoid the need to pre-fill pfns arrays jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm/hmm: add an helper function that fault pages and map them to a device jglisse
2019-03-18 20:21 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-18 20:41 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 21:30 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-18 22:15 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 3:29 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 13:30 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 8:44 ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-19 17:10 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 14:10 ` Ira Weiny
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm/hmm: support hugetlbfs (snap shoting, faulting and DMA mapping) jglisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm/hmm: allow to mirror vma of a file on a DAX backed filesystem jglisse
2019-01-29 18:41 ` Dan Williams
2019-01-29 19:31 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:51 ` Dan Williams
2019-01-29 21:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 2:32 ` Dan Williams
2019-01-30 3:03 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 17:25 ` Dan Williams
2019-01-30 18:36 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31 3:28 ` Dan Williams
2019-01-31 4:16 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31 5:44 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-05 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-06 4:20 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-06 15:51 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-06 15:57 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-06 16:03 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-06 16:06 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-07 17:46 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-07 18:56 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-12 3:13 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-12 15:25 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-12 16:06 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-12 19:06 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-12 19:30 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-12 20:34 ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-13 1:06 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-12 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-13 0:10 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-13 0:46 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-13 1:00 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-13 16:06 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-13 18:39 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-06 15:49 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-06 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-07 0:36 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm/hmm: add helpers for driver to safely take the mmap_sem jglisse
2019-02-20 21:59 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-20 22:19 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-20 22:40 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-20 23:09 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-20 23:17 ` [PATCH 00/10] HMM updates for 5.1 John Hubbard
2019-02-20 23:36 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-22 23:31 ` Ralph Campbell
2019-03-13 1:27 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-13 16:10 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-13 18:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-03-13 18:33 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 17:00 ` Kuehling, Felix
2019-03-18 17:04 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 18:30 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-18 18:54 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 19:18 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-18 19:28 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-18 19:36 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 16:40 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-19 16:58 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 17:12 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-19 17:18 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 17:33 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 17:45 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 18:42 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 19:05 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 19:13 ` Dan Williams
2019-03-19 14:18 ` Ira Weiny
2019-03-19 22:24 ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2019-03-19 19:18 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 20:25 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-19 21:51 ` Stephen Rothwell
2019-03-19 18:51 ` Deucher, Alexander
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