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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>,
	Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
	jannh@google.com, oleg@redhat.com, christian@brauner.io,
	hdanton@sina.com
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 4/6] mm: factor out madvise's core functionality
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 19:12:48 +0900
Message-ID: <20190610101248.GD55602@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190605132728.mihzzw7galqjf5uz@butterfly.localdomain>

Hi Oleksandr,

On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 03:27:28PM +0200, Oleksandr Natalenko wrote:
< snip >
> > > > > >  	write = madvise_need_mmap_write(behavior);
> > > > > >  	if (write) {
> > > > > > -		if (down_write_killable(&current->mm->mmap_sem))
> > > > > > +		if (down_write_killable(&mm->mmap_sem))
> > > > > >  			return -EINTR;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you still need that trick with mmget_still_valid() here?
> > > > > Something like:
> > > > 
> > > > Since MADV_COLD|PAGEOUT doesn't change address space layout or
> > > > vma->vm_flags, technically, we don't need it if I understand
> > > > correctly. Right?
> > > 
> > > I'd expect so, yes. But.
> > > 
> > > Since we want this interface to be universal and to be able to cover
> > > various needs, and since my initial intention with working in this
> > > direction involved KSM, I'd ask you to enable KSM hints too, and once
> > > (and if) that happens, the work there is done under write lock, and
> > > you'll need this trick to be applied.
> > > 
> > > Of course, I can do that myself later in a subsequent patch series once
> > > (and, again, if) your series is merged, but, maybe, we can cover this
> > > already especially given the fact that KSM hinting is a relatively easy
> > > task in this pile. I did some preliminary tests with it, and so far no
> > > dragons have started to roar.
> > 
> > Then, do you mind sending a patch based upon this series to expose
> > MADV_MERGEABLE to process_madvise? It will have the right description
> > why you want to have such feature which I couldn't provide since I don't
> > have enough material to write the motivation. And the patch also could
> > include the logic to prevent coredump race, which is more proper since
> > finally we need to hold mmap_sem write-side lock, finally.
> > I will pick it up and will rebase since then.
> 
> Sure, I can. Would you really like to have it being based on this exact
> revision, or I should wait till you deal with MADV_COLD & Co and re-iterate
> this part again?

I'm okay you to send your patch against this revision. I'm happy to
include it when I start a new thread for process_madvise discussion
after resolving MADV_COLD|PAGEOUT.

Thanks.

  reply index

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-31  6:43 [RFCv2 0/6] introduce memory hinting API for external process Minchan Kim
2019-05-31  6:43 ` [RFCv2 1/6] mm: introduce MADV_COLD Minchan Kim
2019-05-31  8:47   ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-31 13:39     ` Minchan Kim
2019-05-31 14:03       ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-31 14:34         ` Minchan Kim
2019-06-03  7:16           ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-03 15:43             ` Daniel Colascione
2019-06-03 17:27             ` Johannes Weiner
2019-06-03 20:32               ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-03 21:50                 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-06-03 23:02                   ` Minchan Kim
2019-06-04  6:56                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-04 12:06                     ` Johannes Weiner
2019-06-04  6:55                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-04  4:26             ` Minchan Kim
2019-06-04  7:02               ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-31  6:43 ` [RFCv2 2/6] mm: change PAGEREF_RECLAIM_CLEAN with PAGE_REFRECLAIM Minchan Kim
2019-05-31  6:43 ` [RFCv2 3/6] mm: introduce MADV_PAGEOUT Minchan Kim
2019-05-31  8:50   ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-31 13:44     ` Minchan Kim
2019-05-31 16:59   ` Johannes Weiner
2019-05-31 23:14     ` Minchan Kim
2019-05-31  6:43 ` [RFCv2 4/6] mm: factor out madvise's core functionality Minchan Kim
2019-05-31  7:04   ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2019-05-31 13:12     ` Minchan Kim
2019-05-31 14:35       ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2019-05-31 23:29         ` Minchan Kim
2019-06-05 13:27           ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2019-06-10 10:12             ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2019-05-31  6:43 ` [RFCv2 5/6] mm: introduce external memory hinting API Minchan Kim
2019-05-31  8:37   ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-31 13:19     ` Minchan Kim
2019-05-31 14:00       ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-31 14:11         ` Minchan Kim
2019-05-31 17:35   ` Daniel Colascione
2019-05-31  6:43 ` [RFCv2 6/6] mm: extend process_madvise syscall to support vector arrary Minchan Kim
2019-05-31 10:06   ` Yann Droneaud
2019-05-31 23:18     ` Minchan Kim

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