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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:38:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190729153825.GI31398@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2bc722b9-3eff-6d99-4ee7-1f4cab8b6c21@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:22:16AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 7/29/19 10:27 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> > Also; why then not key off that owner tracking to free the resources
> > (and leave the struct mm around) and avoid touching this scheduling
> > hot-path ?
> 
> The resources are pinned by the reference count. Making a special case
> will certainly mess up the existing code.
> 
> It is actually a problem for systems that are mostly idle. Only the
> kernel->kernel case needs to be updated. If the CPUs isn't busy running
> user tasks, a little bit more overhead shouldn't really hurt IMHO.

But when you cannot find a new owner; you can start to strip mm_struct.
That is, what's stopping you from freeing swap reservations when that
happens?

That is; I think the moment mm_users drops to 0, you can destroy the
actual addres space. But you have to keep mm_struct around until
mm_count goes to 0.

This is going on the comments with mmget() and mmgrab(); they forever
confuse me.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-27 17:10 [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads Waiman Long
2019-07-29  8:18 ` Qais Yousef
2019-07-29 21:06   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 21:33     ` Qais Yousef
2019-07-29  8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 14:24   ` [PATCH] sched: Clean up active_mm reference counting Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:01     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-07-29 15:16     ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:29     ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 14:27   ` [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:22     ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:38       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-07-29 14:51   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:28       ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 15:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 16:10           ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 16:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:37       ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 16:12         ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 16:22       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-29  9:12 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29 15:27   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 18:58     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29 20:41       ` Waiman Long

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