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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:22:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D6DB6BFE-BD85-4329-B313-5D84539CD2FD@amacapital.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190729150338.GF31398@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>



> On Jul 29, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:51:51AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>> On 7/29/19 4:52 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 01:10:47PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>> It was found that a dying mm_struct where the owning task has exited
>>>> can stay on as active_mm of kernel threads as long as no other user
>>>> tasks run on those CPUs that use it as active_mm. This prolongs the
>>>> life time of dying mm holding up memory and other resources like swap
>>>> space that cannot be freed.
>>> Sure, but this has been so 'forever', why is it a problem now?
>> 
>> I ran into this probem when running a test program that keeps on
>> allocating and touch memory and it eventually fails as the swap space is
>> full. After the failure, I could not rerun the test program again
>> because the swap space remained full. I finally track it down to the
>> fact that the mm stayed on as active_mm of kernel threads. I have to
>> make sure that all the idle cpus get a user task to run to bump the
>> dying mm off the active_mm of those cpus, but this is just a workaround,
>> not a solution to this problem.
> 
> The 'sad' part is that x86 already switches to init_mm on idle and we
> only keep the active_mm around for 'stupid'.
> 
> Rik and Andy were working on getting that 'fixed' a while ago, not sure
> where that went.

I thought the current status was that we don’t always switch to init_mm on idle and instead we use a fancier and actually correct flushing routine that only flushed idle CPUs when pagetables are freed.  I still think we should be able to kill active_mm in favor of explicit refcounting in the arch code.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-27 17:10 [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads Waiman Long
2019-07-29  8:18 ` Qais Yousef
2019-07-29 21:06   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 21:33     ` Qais Yousef
2019-07-29  8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 14:24   ` [PATCH] sched: Clean up active_mm reference counting Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:01     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-07-29 15:16     ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:29     ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 14:27   ` [PATCH v2] sched/core: Don't use dying mm as active_mm of kthreads Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:22     ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 14:51   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 15:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:28       ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 15:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 16:10           ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 16:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-29 15:37       ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 16:12         ` Rik van Riel
2019-07-29 16:22       ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2019-07-29  9:12 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29 15:27   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-29 18:58     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-29 20:41       ` Waiman Long

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