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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>, x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Improve memset
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:55:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190919125542.GB18148@nazgul.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjDiDOcz2GHC88rV8gySCMZZko8PFW-ywJDkeY5n+je9Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 01:45:20PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> That sounds better, but I'm a bit nervous about the whole thing
> because who knows when the alternatives code itself internally uses
> memset() and then we have a nasty little chicken-and-egg problem.

You mean memcpy()...?

> Also, for it to make sense to inline rep stosb, I think we also need
> to just make the calling conventions for the alternative calls be that
> they _don't_ clobber other registers than the usual rep ones
> (cx/di/si). Otherwise one big code generation advantage of inlining
> the thing just goes away.

Yah, that is tricky and I have no smart idea how. The ABI puts the
operands in rdi,rsi,rdx, ... while REP; STOSB wants them in rax,rcx,rdi.
And if it were only that, then we could probably accept the 2 movs and
a push but then the old functions clobber three more: "rdx", "r8", "r9".

I could try to rewrite the old functions to see if I can save some regs...

> On the whole I get the feeling that this is all painful complexity and
> we shouldn't do it. At least not without some hard performance numbers
> for some huge improvement, which I don't think we've seen.

Yap, it is starting to become hairy.

> Because I find the thing fascinating conceptually, but am not at all
> convinced I want to deal with the pain in practice ;)

I hear ya.

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

ECO tip #101: Trim your mails when you reply.
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-19 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-13  7:22 [RFC] Improve memset Borislav Petkov
2019-09-13  7:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-13  7:50   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-13  8:51 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-13  9:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-13  9:18   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-13 10:42     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-13 16:36       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-16  9:18         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-16 17:25           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-16 17:40             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-09-16 21:29               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-16 23:13                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-09-16 23:26                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-17  8:15             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-17 10:55             ` David Laight
2019-09-17 20:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-09-17 20:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-19 12:55     ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2019-09-19 12:49   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-09-14  9:29 Alexey Dobriyan
2019-09-14 11:39 ` Borislav Petkov

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