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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>, Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
	Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	"Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>,
	Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] virtio: let virtio use DMA API when guest RAM is protected
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 17:39:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200221163938.GC10054@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200221153340.4cdcde81.pasic@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 03:33:40PM +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
> > Hell no.  This is a detail of the platform DMA direct implementation.
> 
> I beg to differ. If it was a detail of the DMA direct implementation, it
> should have/would have been private to kernel/dma/direct.c. 

It can't given that platforms have to implement it.  It is an arch hook
for dma-direct.

> Consider what would we have to do to make PCI devices do I/O trough
> pages that were shared when the guest is running in a protected VM. The
> s390_pci_dma_ops would also need to know whether to 'force dma uencrypted'
> or not, and it's the exact same logic. I doubt simply using DMA direct
> for zPCI would do, because we still have to do all the Z specific IOMMU
> management.

And your IOMMU can't deal with the encryption bit?  In the case we
could think of allowing IOMMU implementation to access it.  But the
point that it is an internal detail of the DMA implementation and by
now means for drivers.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-21 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-20 16:06 [PATCH 0/2] virtio: decouple protected guest RAM form VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM Halil Pasic
2020-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: move force_dma_unencrypted() to mem_encrypt.h Halil Pasic
2020-02-20 16:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-20 16:23     ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-20 16:31       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-20 17:00         ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-21  3:27         ` David Gibson
2020-02-21 13:06           ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-21 15:48             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-21 18:07               ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-24  3:33                 ` David Gibson
2020-02-24 18:49                   ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-25 18:08                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-02-28  0:23                       ` David Gibson
2020-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] virtio: let virtio use DMA API when guest RAM is protected Halil Pasic
2020-02-20 16:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-21  2:59     ` David Gibson
2020-02-21  3:41       ` Jason Wang
2020-02-21 13:31         ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-21 13:27       ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-21 16:36       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-24  6:50         ` David Gibson
2020-02-24 18:59         ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-21 14:33     ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-21 16:39       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-02-21 18:16         ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-22 19:07       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-24 17:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <691d8c8e-665c-b05f-383f-78377fcf6741@amazon.com>
2020-10-28 18:01             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-20 20:55   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-21  1:17     ` Ram Pai
2020-02-21  3:29       ` David Gibson
2020-02-21 13:12     ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-21 15:39       ` Tom Lendacky
2020-02-24  6:40         ` David Gibson
2020-02-21 15:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-21 16:35         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-21 18:03         ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-20 20:48 ` [PATCH 0/2] virtio: decouple protected guest RAM form VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-20 21:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-21 13:37   ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-20 21:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-21 13:49   ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-21 16:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-24  5:44     ` David Gibson
2020-02-21  6:22 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-21 14:56   ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-24  3:38     ` David Gibson
2020-02-24  4:01     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-24  6:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-24  6:45         ` Jason Wang
2020-02-24  7:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-24  9:26             ` Jason Wang
2020-02-24 13:40               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-25  3:38                 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-24 13:56               ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-25  3:30                 ` Jason Wang

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