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From: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
To: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Adrian Reber <areber@redhat.com>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <ovzxemul@gmail.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Radostin Stoyanov <rstoyanov1@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: clone3: allow creation of time namespace with offset
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 17:09:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200317160943.2qquqsa4l3oc7ii2@wittgenstein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200317142350.ssraami3a4vnk5po@yavin>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 01:23:50AM +1100, Aleksa Sarai wrote:
> On 2020-03-17, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [CC += linux-api; please CC on future versions]
> > 
> > On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 09:32, Adrian Reber <areber@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > Requiring nanoseconds as well as seconds for two clocks during clone3()
> > > means that it would require 4 additional members to 'struct clone_args':
> > >
> > >         __aligned_u64 tls;
> > >         __aligned_u64 set_tid;
> > >         __aligned_u64 set_tid_size;
> > > +       __aligned_u64 boottime_offset_seconds;
> > > +       __aligned_u64 boottime_offset_nanoseconds;
> > > +       __aligned_u64 monotonic_offset_seconds;
> > > +       __aligned_u64 monotonic_offset_nanoseconds;
> > >  };
> > >
> > > To avoid four additional members to 'struct clone_args' this patchset
> > > uses another approach:
> > >
> > >         __aligned_u64 tls;
> > >         __aligned_u64 set_tid;
> > >         __aligned_u64 set_tid_size;
> > > +       __aligned_u64 timens_offset;
> > > +       __aligned_u64 timens_offset_size;
> > >  };
> > >
> > > timens_offset is a pointer to an array just as previously done with
> > > set_tid and timens_offset_size is the size of the array.
> > >
> > > The timens_offset array is expected to contain a struct like this:
> > >
> > > struct set_timens_offset {
> > >        int clockid;
> > >        struct timespec val;
> > > };
> > >
> > > This way it is possible to pass the information of multiple clocks with
> > > seconds and nanonseconds to clone3().
> > >
> > > To me this seems the better approach, but I am not totally convinced
> > > that it is the right thing. If there are other ideas how to pass two
> > > clock offsets with seconds and nanonseconds to clone3() I would be happy
> > > to hear other ideas.
> 
> While I agree this does make the API cleaner, I am a little worried that
> it risks killing some of the ideas we discussed for seccomp deep
> inspection. In particular, having a pointer to variable-sized data
> inside the struct means that now the cBPF program can't just be given a
> copy of the struct data from userspace to check.

I suggested two alternative approaches in a response to this. The
easiest one would be to simple assume that the struct doesn't change
size.
(But haven't we crossed that bridge with the set_tid array already?)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-17 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-17  8:30 clone3: allow creation of time namespace with offset Adrian Reber
2020-03-17  8:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] ns: prepare time namespace for clone3() Adrian Reber
2020-03-18 10:57   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-03-18 11:17     ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-18 11:28       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-03-18 11:57         ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-18 11:58           ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-18 12:07             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-03-17  8:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] clone3: allow creation of time namespace with offset Adrian Reber
2020-03-18 12:13   ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-17  8:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] clone3: align structs and comments Adrian Reber
2020-03-17  8:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: add clone3() in time namespace test Adrian Reber
2020-03-17  8:41 ` clone3: allow creation of time namespace with offset Christian Brauner
2020-03-17  8:43   ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-17  9:40 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-03-17 14:23   ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-17 16:09     ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2020-03-18 10:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-19  8:11   ` Adrian Reber
2020-03-19  8:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-19 10:29       ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-20 18:33         ` Andrei Vagin
2020-03-24 16:09           ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-24 16:25             ` Adrian Reber
2020-03-24 17:56               ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-25  7:58                 ` Adrian Reber
2020-03-25 11:26                   ` Christian Brauner
2020-04-01 11:40                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-04-01 11:46                       ` Christian Brauner
2020-04-01 12:15                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-29 12:26 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-29 15:10   ` Adrian Reber
2020-05-29 15:13     ` Christian Brauner

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