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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Adrian Reber <areber@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <ovzxemul@gmail.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Radostin Stoyanov <rstoyanov1@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: clone3: allow creation of time namespace with offset
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:40:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKgNAkh7=2Noyn0o3880xbbi4w5oiwqs9ibTYLtheqzxne3mbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200317083043.226593-1-areber@redhat.com>

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On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 09:32, Adrian Reber <areber@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> This is an attempt to add time namespace support to clone3(). I am not
> really sure which way clone3() should handle time namespaces. The time
> namespace through /proc cannot be used with clone3() because the offsets
> for the time namespace need to be written before a process has been
> created in that time namespace. This means it is necessary to somehow
> tell clone3() the offsets for the clocks.
>
> The time namespace offers the possibility to set offsets for
> CLOCK_MONOTONIC and CLOCK_BOOTTIME. My first approach was to extend
> 'struct clone_args` with '__aligned_u64 monotonic_offset' and
> '__aligned_u64 boottime_offset'. The problem with this approach was that
> it was not possible to set nanoseconds for the clocks in the time
> namespace.
>
> One of the motivations for clone3() with CLONE_NEWTIME was to enable
> CRIU to restore a process in a time namespace with the corresponding
> offsets. And although the nanosecond value can probably never be
> restored to the same value it had during checkpointing, because the
> clock keeps on running between CRIU pausing all processes and CRIU
> actually reading the value of the clocks, the nanosecond value is still
> necessary for CRIU to not restore a process where the clock jumps back
> due to CRIU restoring it with a nanonsecond value that is too small.
>
> Requiring nanoseconds as well as seconds for two clocks during clone3()
> means that it would require 4 additional members to 'struct clone_args':
>
>         __aligned_u64 tls;
>         __aligned_u64 set_tid;
>         __aligned_u64 set_tid_size;
> +       __aligned_u64 boottime_offset_seconds;
> +       __aligned_u64 boottime_offset_nanoseconds;
> +       __aligned_u64 monotonic_offset_seconds;
> +       __aligned_u64 monotonic_offset_nanoseconds;
>  };
>
> To avoid four additional members to 'struct clone_args' this patchset
> uses another approach:
>
>         __aligned_u64 tls;
>         __aligned_u64 set_tid;
>         __aligned_u64 set_tid_size;
> +       __aligned_u64 timens_offset;
> +       __aligned_u64 timens_offset_size;
>  };
>
> timens_offset is a pointer to an array just as previously done with
> set_tid and timens_offset_size is the size of the array.
>
> The timens_offset array is expected to contain a struct like this:
>
> struct set_timens_offset {
>        int clockid;
>        struct timespec val;
> };
>
> This way it is possible to pass the information of multiple clocks with
> seconds and nanonseconds to clone3().
>
> To me this seems the better approach, but I am not totally convinced
> that it is the right thing. If there are other ideas how to pass two
> clock offsets with seconds and nanonseconds to clone3() I would be happy
> to hear other ideas.
>
>                 Adrian
>
>


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-17  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-17  8:30 clone3: allow creation of time namespace with offset Adrian Reber
2020-03-17  8:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] ns: prepare time namespace for clone3() Adrian Reber
2020-03-18 10:57   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-03-18 11:17     ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-18 11:28       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-03-18 11:57         ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-18 11:58           ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-18 12:07             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2020-03-17  8:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] clone3: allow creation of time namespace with offset Adrian Reber
2020-03-18 12:13   ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-17  8:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] clone3: align structs and comments Adrian Reber
2020-03-17  8:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: add clone3() in time namespace test Adrian Reber
2020-03-17  8:41 ` clone3: allow creation of time namespace with offset Christian Brauner
2020-03-17  8:43   ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-17  9:40 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2020-03-17 14:23   ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-17 16:09     ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-18 10:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-19  8:11   ` Adrian Reber
2020-03-19  8:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-03-19 10:29       ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-20 18:33         ` Andrei Vagin
2020-03-24 16:09           ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-24 16:25             ` Adrian Reber
2020-03-24 17:56               ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-25  7:58                 ` Adrian Reber
2020-03-25 11:26                   ` Christian Brauner
2020-04-01 11:40                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-04-01 11:46                       ` Christian Brauner
2020-04-01 12:15                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-29 12:26 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-29 15:10   ` Adrian Reber
2020-05-29 15:13     ` Christian Brauner

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