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From: peterz@infradead.org
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] module: Harden STRICT_MODULE_RWX
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:40:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200812104005.GN2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXF8fm=9CdQykqDbgYCJSP88ezMs3EOosCW+SDi+Lve0zg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 10:56:56AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> The module .lds has BYTE(0) in the section contents to prevent the
> linker from pruning them entirely. The (NOLOAD) is there to ensure
> that this byte does not end up in the .ko, which is more a matter of
> principle than anything else, so we can happily drop that if it helps.
> 
> However, this should only affect the PROGBITS vs NOBITS designation,
> and so I am not sure whether it makes a difference.
> 
> Depending on where the w^x check occurs, we might simply override the
> permissions of these sections, and strip the writable permission if it
> is set in the PLT handling init code, which manipulates the metadata
> of all these 3 sections before the module space is vmalloc'ed.

What's curious is that this seems the result of some recent binutils
change. Every build with binutils-2.34 (or older) does not seem to
generate these as WAX, but has the much more sensible WA.

I suppose we can change the kernel check and 'allow' W^X for 0 sized
sections, but I think we should still figure out why binutils-2.35 is
now generating WAX sections all of a sudden, it might come bite us
elsewhere.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-12 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-03 17:13 [PATCH v2] module: Harden STRICT_MODULE_RWX Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 20:31 ` Kees Cook
2020-04-08 15:32 ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-08 15:43   ` [PATCH] module: break nested ARCH_HAS_STRICT_MODULE_RWX and STRICT_MODULE_RWX #ifdefs Jessica Yu
2020-04-08 15:57   ` [PATCH v2] module: Harden STRICT_MODULE_RWX Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-08 16:20     ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-08  8:12 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-08-10  9:25   ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-10 15:06     ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-11 14:34       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-08-11 14:55         ` peterz
2020-08-11 15:27           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-08-11 16:01             ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-11 16:57               ` Will Deacon
2020-08-11 17:59               ` peterz
2020-08-11 21:29                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-12  8:56               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-12 10:40                 ` peterz [this message]
2020-08-12 11:41                   ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-12 13:14                     ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-12 12:56                   ` Will Deacon
2020-08-12 14:15                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-08-12 16:00                       ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-12 16:37                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-12 16:42                           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-08-13  9:00                             ` Will Deacon
2020-08-12 20:00                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-13  8:36                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-13 13:04                               ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-13 13:07                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-21 12:20                                   ` Will Deacon
2020-08-21 12:27                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-21 12:30                                       ` Will Deacon
2020-08-22 13:47                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-24 15:24                                           ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-25  1:54                                             ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-08-31  9:46                                         ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-31 10:42                                           ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-08-31 13:25                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-31 15:31                                               ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-31 15:46                                               ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-09-03 12:37                                             ` Jessica Yu
2020-09-01 12:51                                           ` Will Deacon

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