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From: joel@joelfernandes.org
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 6/6] rcu/segcblist: Add additional comments to explain smp_mb()
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:19:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201017031941.GD4015033@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201017012753.GB4015033@google.com>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 09:27:53PM -0400, joel@joelfernandes.org wrote:
[..]
> > > + *
> > > + * Memory barrier is needed after adding to length for the case
> > > + * where length transitions from 0 -> 1. This is because rcu_barrier()
> > > + * should never miss an update to the length. So the update to length
> > > + * has to be seen *before* any modifications to the segmented list. Otherwise a
> > > + * race can happen.
> > > + * P0 (what P1 sees)	P1
> > > + * queue to list
> > > + *                      rcu_barrier sees len as 0
> > > + * set len = 1.
> > > + *                      rcu_barrier does nothing.
> > 
> > So that would be:
> > 
> >       call_rcu()                    rcu_barrier()
> >       --                            --
> >       WRITE(len, len + 1)           l = READ(len)
> >       smp_mb()                      if (!l)
> >       queue                            check next CPU...
> > 
> > 
> > But I still don't see against what it pairs in rcu_barrier.
> 
> Actually, for the second case maybe a similar reasoning can be applied
> (control dependency) but I'm unable to come up with a litmus test.
> In fact, now I'm wondering how is it possible that call_rcu() races with
> rcu_barrier(). The module should ensure that no more call_rcu() should happen
> before rcu_barrier() is called.
> 
> confused

So I made a litmus test to show that smp_mb() is needed also after the update
to length. Basically, otherwise it is possible the callback will see garbage
that the module cleanup/unload did.

C rcubarrier+ctrldep

(*
 * Result: Never
 *
 * This litmus test shows that rcu_barrier (P1) prematurely
 * returning by reading len 0 can cause issues if P0 does
 * NOT have a smb_mb() after WRITE_ONCE(len, 1).
 * mod_data == 2 means module was unloaded (so data is garbage).
 *)

{ int len = 0; int enq = 0; }

P0(int *len, int *mod_data, int *enq)
{
	int r0;

	WRITE_ONCE(*len, 1);
	smp_mb();		/* Needed! */
	WRITE_ONCE(*enq, 1);

	r0 = READ_ONCE(*mod_data);
}

P1(int *len, int *mod_data, int *enq)
{
	int r0;
	int r1;

	r1 = READ_ONCE(*enq);

	// barrier Just for test purpose ("exists" clause) to force the..
	// ..rcu_barrier() to see enq before len
	smp_mb();		
	r0 = READ_ONCE(*len);

	// implicit memory barrier due to conditional */
	if (r0 == 0)
		WRITE_ONCE(*mod_data, 2);
}

// Did P0 read garbage?
exists (0:r0=2 /\ 1:r0=0 /\ 1:r1=1)


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-17  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-15  0:22 [PATCH v7 0/6] Add support for length of each segment in the segcblist Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:22 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] rcu/tree: Make rcu_do_batch count how many callbacks were executed Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:22 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] rcu/segcblist: Add counters to segcblist datastructure Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15 12:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-17  1:31     ` joel
2020-10-21 15:33     ` joel
2020-10-21 21:53       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-21 22:31         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-18  8:23   ` [rcu/segcblist] e08055898f: WARNING:at_kernel/rcu/srcutree.c:#cleanup_srcu_struct kernel test robot
2020-10-21 14:40     ` joel
2020-10-15  0:22 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] rcu/trace: Add tracing for how segcb list changes Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:22 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] rcu/segcblist: Remove useless rcupdate.h include Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:23 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] rcu/tree: Remove redundant smp_mb() in rcu_do_batch Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:23 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] rcu/segcblist: Add additional comments to explain smp_mb() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15 13:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-17  1:27     ` joel
2020-10-17  3:19       ` joel [this message]
2020-10-17 13:29         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-18  0:35           ` joel
2020-10-19 12:37             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-21 18:57               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-21 21:16                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-17 20:24         ` Alan Stern
2020-10-18 20:45           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-18 21:15             ` Alan Stern
2020-10-17 14:31       ` Alan Stern
2020-10-18 20:16         ` Joel Fernandes

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