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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: joel@joelfernandes.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 6/6] rcu/segcblist: Add additional comments to explain smp_mb()
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:29:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201017132954.GA15657@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201017031941.GD4015033@google.com>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:19:41PM -0400, joel@joelfernandes.org wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 09:27:53PM -0400, joel@joelfernandes.org wrote:
> [..]
> > > > + *
> > > > + * Memory barrier is needed after adding to length for the case
> > > > + * where length transitions from 0 -> 1. This is because rcu_barrier()
> > > > + * should never miss an update to the length. So the update to length
> > > > + * has to be seen *before* any modifications to the segmented list. Otherwise a
> > > > + * race can happen.
> > > > + * P0 (what P1 sees)	P1
> > > > + * queue to list
> > > > + *                      rcu_barrier sees len as 0
> > > > + * set len = 1.
> > > > + *                      rcu_barrier does nothing.
> > > 
> > > So that would be:
> > > 
> > >       call_rcu()                    rcu_barrier()
> > >       --                            --
> > >       WRITE(len, len + 1)           l = READ(len)
> > >       smp_mb()                      if (!l)
> > >       queue                            check next CPU...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > But I still don't see against what it pairs in rcu_barrier.
> > 
> > Actually, for the second case maybe a similar reasoning can be applied
> > (control dependency) but I'm unable to come up with a litmus test.
> > In fact, now I'm wondering how is it possible that call_rcu() races with
> > rcu_barrier(). The module should ensure that no more call_rcu() should happen
> > before rcu_barrier() is called.
> > 
> > confused
> 
> So I made a litmus test to show that smp_mb() is needed also after the update
> to length. Basically, otherwise it is possible the callback will see garbage
> that the module cleanup/unload did.
> 
> C rcubarrier+ctrldep
> 
> (*
>  * Result: Never
>  *
>  * This litmus test shows that rcu_barrier (P1) prematurely
>  * returning by reading len 0 can cause issues if P0 does
>  * NOT have a smb_mb() after WRITE_ONCE(len, 1).
>  * mod_data == 2 means module was unloaded (so data is garbage).
>  *)
> 
> { int len = 0; int enq = 0; }
> 
> P0(int *len, int *mod_data, int *enq)
> {
> 	int r0;
> 
> 	WRITE_ONCE(*len, 1);
> 	smp_mb();		/* Needed! */
> 	WRITE_ONCE(*enq, 1);
> 
> 	r0 = READ_ONCE(*mod_data);
> }
> 
> P1(int *len, int *mod_data, int *enq)
> {
> 	int r0;
> 	int r1;
> 
> 	r1 = READ_ONCE(*enq);
> 
> 	// barrier Just for test purpose ("exists" clause) to force the..
> 	// ..rcu_barrier() to see enq before len
> 	smp_mb();		
> 	r0 = READ_ONCE(*len);
> 
> 	// implicit memory barrier due to conditional */
> 	if (r0 == 0)
> 		WRITE_ONCE(*mod_data, 2);
> }

I'm not sure what scenario P1 refers to in practice, and to what module?

> 
> // Did P0 read garbage?
> exists (0:r0=2 /\ 1:r0=0 /\ 1:r1=1)
> 


What also scares me is that in rcu_barrier():

	for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
		rdp = per_cpu_ptr(&rcu_data, cpu);
		if (cpu_is_offline(cpu) &&
		    !rcu_segcblist_is_offloaded(&rdp->cblist))
			continue;
		if (rcu_segcblist_n_cbs(&rdp->cblist) && cpu_online(cpu)) {
			rcu_barrier_trace(TPS("OnlineQ"), cpu,
					  rcu_state.barrier_sequence);
			smp_call_function_single(cpu, rcu_barrier_func, (void *)cpu, 1);
		} else if (rcu_segcblist_n_cbs(&rdp->cblist) &&
			   cpu_is_offline(cpu)) {
			rcu_barrier_trace(TPS("OfflineNoCBQ"), cpu,
					  rcu_state.barrier_sequence);
			local_irq_disable();
			rcu_barrier_func((void *)cpu);
			local_irq_enable();
		} else if (cpu_is_offline(cpu)) {
			rcu_barrier_trace(TPS("OfflineNoCBNoQ"), cpu,
					  rcu_state.barrier_sequence);
		} else {
			rcu_barrier_trace(TPS("OnlineNQ"), cpu,
					  rcu_state.barrier_sequence);
		}
	}

I can't find something that makes sure this isn't racy while reading
rcu_segcblist_n_cbs(&rdp->cblist).

I mean what I see sums up to this:

      CPU 0                                CPU 1
      rcu_barrier()                        call_rcu()/rcu_segcblist_enqueue()
      ------------                         --------

                                           smp_mb();
                                           inc_len();
					   smp_mb();
					   queue callback;
      for_each_possible_cpu(cpu)
          if (!rcu_segcblist_n_cbs(&rdp->cblist))
	      continue;

It looks possible for rcu_barrier() to believe there is no callback enqueued
and see rcu_segcblist_n_cbs(&rdp->cblist) == 0 here.

I'm very likely missing something obvious somewhere.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-17 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-15  0:22 [PATCH v7 0/6] Add support for length of each segment in the segcblist Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:22 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] rcu/tree: Make rcu_do_batch count how many callbacks were executed Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:22 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] rcu/segcblist: Add counters to segcblist datastructure Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15 12:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-17  1:31     ` joel
2020-10-21 15:33     ` joel
2020-10-21 21:53       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-21 22:31         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-18  8:23   ` [rcu/segcblist] e08055898f: WARNING:at_kernel/rcu/srcutree.c:#cleanup_srcu_struct kernel test robot
2020-10-21 14:40     ` joel
2020-10-15  0:22 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] rcu/trace: Add tracing for how segcb list changes Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:22 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] rcu/segcblist: Remove useless rcupdate.h include Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:23 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] rcu/tree: Remove redundant smp_mb() in rcu_do_batch Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15  0:23 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] rcu/segcblist: Add additional comments to explain smp_mb() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-15 13:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-17  1:27     ` joel
2020-10-17  3:19       ` joel
2020-10-17 13:29         ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2020-10-18  0:35           ` joel
2020-10-19 12:37             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-21 18:57               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-21 21:16                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-10-17 20:24         ` Alan Stern
2020-10-18 20:45           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-18 21:15             ` Alan Stern
2020-10-17 14:31       ` Alan Stern
2020-10-18 20:16         ` Joel Fernandes

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