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From: "Dr. Greg" <greg@enjellic.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v40 10/24] mm: Add 'mprotect' hook to struct vm_operations_struct
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 12:59:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201115185950.GA26542@wind.enjellic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c22300c-0956-48ed-578d-00cf62cb5c09@intel.com>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 01:31:19PM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:

Good afternoon to everyone.

> On 11/12/20 12:58 PM, Dr. Greg wrote:
> > @@ -270,11 +270,10 @@ static int sgx_vma_mprotect(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >  			    struct vm_area_struct **pprev, unsigned long start,
> >  			    unsigned long end, unsigned long newflags)
> >  {
> > -	int ret;
> > +	struct sgx_encl *encl = vma->vm_private_data;
> >  
> > -	ret = sgx_encl_may_map(vma->vm_private_data, start, end, newflags);
> > -	if (ret)
> > -		return ret;
> > +	if ( test_bit(SGX_ENCL_INITIALIZED, &encl->flags) )
> > +		return -EACCES;
> >  
> >  	return mprotect_fixup(vma, pprev, start, end, newflags);
> >  }

> This rules out mprotect() on running enclaves.  Does that break any
> expectations from enclave authors, or take away capabilities that
> folks need?

As I mentioned an hour or so ago when I posted our updated patch, Sean
and Jarkko have specifically indicated that there is no intention to
support Enclave Dynamic Memory Management (EDMM) at this stage of the
driver.  I believe the intent is to open that can of worms after the
driver is mainlined.

Since the stated intent of the driver is to only implement SGX1
semantics there is no need to allow page permission changes of any
type after the enclave is initialized.  If mmap/mprotect are taken off
the table for an initialized enclave, there is no need to walk the
enclave page permissions since the hardware itself will enforce those
intents.

Runtime support is critical to implementing EDMM.  It seems premature
to place code into the kernel until there is agreement from the
runtime developers as to how page permission intent should be
communicated into the kernel.  Current EDMM implementations simply
allocate a sparse aperture which can be further extended, for example,
to increase heap space or the number of Task Control Structures.

As I've stated previously, there is an open question at this point as
to how useful a mainline driver will be without EDMM support, unless
the distributions or cloud providers are going to patch it in on top
of the mainline driver.  Those players have been copied on all of
these e-mails so I would assume they could/would pipe up with comments
on what type of security architecture should be implemented.

As I've stated before, I believe in the final analysis that the only
relevant question is yes or no with respect to dynamic enclaves.

Have a good remainder of the weekend.

Dr. Greg

As always,
Greg Wettstein, Ph.D, Worker          Autonomously self-defensive
Enjellic Systems Development, LLC     IOT platforms and edge devices.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-15 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-04 14:54 [PATCH v40 00/24] Intel SGX foundations Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 01/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX architectural data structures Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 02/24] x86/sgx: Add wrappers for ENCLS functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 03/24] x86/sgx: Initialize metadata for Enclave Page Cache (EPC) sections Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 18:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-04 19:04     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 19:09       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 19:12         ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 04/24] x86/cpufeatures: x86/msr: Add Intel SGX hardware bits Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 05/24] x86/cpufeatures: x86/msr: Add Intel SGX Launch Control " Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 06/24] x86/mm: x86/sgx: Signal SIGSEGV with PF_SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 07/24] x86/cpu/intel: Detect SGX support Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 08/24] x86/cpu/intel: Add nosgx kernel parameter Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 09/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX page allocator functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05 15:08   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 10/24] mm: Add 'mprotect' hook to struct vm_operations_struct Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05 16:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-05 17:33     ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-06 10:04   ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-06 16:51     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-06 20:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-06 22:04         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-06 22:31           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-06 17:43   ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-06 17:54     ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-07 15:09       ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-07 19:16         ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-12 20:58           ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-12 21:31             ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-12 22:41               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-16 18:00                 ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-19  1:39                   ` Haitao Huang
2020-11-20 17:31                     ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-15 18:59               ` Dr. Greg [this message]
2020-11-06 21:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-06 21:23       ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-07 15:27       ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 11/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX misc driver interface Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05  1:10   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05  1:16     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05 16:05       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-05 17:57         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-05 18:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-06 16:07             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-06 17:09               ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-06 22:01                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 12/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_CREATE Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 13/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_ADD_PAGES Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 14/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_INIT Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 15/24] x86/sgx: Add SGX_IOC_ENCLAVE_PROVISION Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 16/24] x86/vdso: Add support for exception fixup in vDSO functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 17/24] x86/fault: Add helper function to sanitize error code Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 18/24] x86/traps: Attempt to fixup exceptions in vDSO before signaling Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 19/24] x86/vdso: Implement a vDSO for Intel SGX enclave call Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-08 18:24   ` Jethro Beekman
2020-11-08 20:08   ` Jethro Beekman
2020-11-08 20:26     ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-08 20:20   ` Jethro Beekman
2020-11-08 20:30     ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 20/24] selftests/x86: Add a selftest for SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 21/24] x86/sgx: Add a page reclaimer Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 22/24] x86/sgx: Add ptrace() support for the SGX driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 23/24] docs: x86/sgx: Document SGX kernel architecture Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-04 14:54 ` [PATCH v40 24/24] x86/sgx: Update MAINTAINERS Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-08 20:48 ` [PATCH v40 00/24] Intel SGX foundations Jethro Beekman
     [not found] ` <20201108035630.11540-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-11-09 19:59   ` [PATCH v40 21/24] x86/sgx: Add a page reclaimer Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-11-21 15:12 ` [PATCH v40 00/24] Intel SGX foundations Dr. Greg
2020-11-21 16:25   ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-24 10:55     ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-24 17:49       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-21 18:36   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-24 18:40     ` Dr. Greg
2020-11-24 21:57       ` Andy Lutomirski

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