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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Qian Cai <cai@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>,
	Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip V3 0/8] workqueue: break affinity initiatively
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:50:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210111215052.GA19589@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210111180907.GE2743@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:09:07AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 06:16:39PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > While thinking more about this, I'm thinking a big part of the problem
> > is that we're not dinstinguishing between geniuine per-cpu kthreads and
> > kthreads that just happen to be per-cpu.
> > 
> > Geniuine per-cpu kthreads are kthread_bind() and have PF_NO_SETAFFINITY,
> > but sadly a lot of non-per-cpu kthreads, that might happen to still be
> > per-cpu also have that -- again workqueue does that even to it's unbound
> > workers :-(
> > 
> > Now, anything created by smpboot, is created through
> > kthread_create_on_cpu() and that additionally sets to_kthread(p)->flags
> > KTHREAD_IS_PER_CPU.
> > 
> > And I'm thinking that might be sufficient, if we modify
> > is_per_cpu_kthread() to check that, then we only match smpboot threads
> > (which include the hotplug and stopper threads, but notably not the idle
> > thread)
> > 
> > Sadly it appears like io_uring() uses kthread_create_on_cpu() without
> > then having any hotplug crud on, so that needs additinoal frobbing.
> > 
> > Also, init_task is PF_KTHREAD but doesn't have a struct kthread on.. and
> > I suppose bound workqueues don't go through this either.
> > 
> > Let me rummage around a bit...
> > 
> > This seems to not insta-explode... opinions?
> 
> It passes quick tests on -rcu both with and without the rcutorture fixes,
> which is encouraging.  I will start a more vigorous test in about an hour.

And 672 ten-minute instances of RUDE01 passed with this patch applied
and with my rcutorture patch reverted.  So looking good, thank you!!!

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-11 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-26  2:51 [PATCH -tip V3 0/8] workqueue: break affinity initiatively Lai Jiangshan
2020-12-26  2:51 ` [PATCH -tip V3 1/8] workqueue: use cpu_possible_mask instead of cpu_active_mask to break affinity Lai Jiangshan
2020-12-26  2:51 ` [PATCH -tip V3 2/8] workqueue: Manually break affinity on pool detachment Lai Jiangshan
2020-12-26  2:51 ` [PATCH -tip V3 3/8] workqueue: introduce wq_online_cpumask Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-04 13:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05  2:41     ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-05  2:53       ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-05  8:23       ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-05 13:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 14:37           ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-05 14:40             ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-05 16:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-26  2:51 ` [PATCH -tip V3 4/8] workqueue: use wq_online_cpumask in restore_unbound_workers_cpumask() Lai Jiangshan
2020-12-26  2:51 ` [PATCH -tip V3 5/8] workqueue: Manually break affinity on hotplug for unbound pool Lai Jiangshan
     [not found]   ` <20201226101631.5448-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-12-27 14:04     ` Lai Jiangshan
2020-12-26  2:51 ` [PATCH -tip V3 6/8] workqueue: reorganize workqueue_online_cpu() Lai Jiangshan
2020-12-26  2:51 ` [PATCH -tip V3 7/8] workqueue: reorganize workqueue_offline_cpu() unbind_workers() Lai Jiangshan
2020-12-26  2:51 ` [PATCH -tip V3 8/8] workqueue: Fix affinity of kworkers when attaching into pool Lai Jiangshan
     [not found]   ` <20201229100639.2086-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-12-29 10:13     ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-08 11:46 ` [PATCH -tip V3 0/8] workqueue: break affinity initiatively Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-11 10:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-11 11:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-11 15:00       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-11 17:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-11 18:09         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-11 21:50           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2021-01-12 17:14             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-12 23:53               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-01-15  9:11                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-15 13:04                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-16  6:00                     ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-11 19:21         ` Valentin Schneider
2021-01-11 20:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-11 22:47             ` Valentin Schneider
2021-01-12  4:33             ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-12 14:53               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 15:38                 ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-13 11:10                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-13 12:00                     ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-13 12:57                     ` Lai Jiangshan
2021-01-12 17:52               ` Valentin Schneider
2021-01-12 14:57           ` Jens Axboe
2021-01-12 15:51             ` Peter Zijlstra

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