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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
Cc: Qiang Ma <maqianga@uniontech.com>,
	jikos@kernel.org, benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] HID: usbhid: enable remote wakeup for mouse
Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 09:32:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210517133247.GB1083813@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1327a9251c74587670970baa0f662cd61006f576.camel@suse.com>

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:31:45AM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Montag, den 17.05.2021, 14:01 +0800 schrieb Qiang Ma:
> > This patch enables remote wakeup by default for USB mouse
> > devices.  Mouse in general are supposed to be wakeup devices, but

I disagree with that statement.  Who decided that mice are supposed to 
be wakeup devices?

> > the correct place to enable it depends on the device's bus; no single
> > approach will work for all mouse devices.  In particular, this
> > covers only USB mouse (and then only those supporting the boot
> > protocol).
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> have you tested this? In my experience the issue with mice
> is that they wake up only when you press a mouse button, not when you
> move the mouse. Do we make a promise we cannot keep here?

Even worse, if a mouse is enabled for wakeup then the system may get 
woken up at the wrong time.  The example people often use is a laptop 
with a USB mouse thrown into a backpack while it is asleep.  Something 
else inside the backpack may accidentally press against a mouse button, 
causing the system to wake up even though the user wants it to remain 
asleep.

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-17 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-17  6:01 [PATCH] HID: usbhid: enable remote wakeup for mouse Qiang Ma
2021-05-17  8:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2021-05-17 13:32   ` Alan Stern [this message]
     [not found]     ` <1209199573.51584.1621492845444.JavaMail.xmail@bj-wm-cp-1>
2021-05-25  9:55       ` Oliver Neukum
2021-05-17  8:58 ` Greg KH
     [not found]   ` <1547909475.114060.1621244274064.JavaMail.xmail@bj-wm-cp-4>
2021-05-17  9:46     ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <1781917892.119659.1621247946603.JavaMail.xmail@bj-wm-cp-4>
2021-05-17 10:42         ` Greg KH
     [not found]           ` <440071991.120491.1621248757251.JavaMail.xmail@bj-wm-cp-4>
2021-05-17 11:19             ` Greg KH
     [not found]               ` <671637326.122188.1621250895330.JavaMail.xmail@bj-wm-cp-4>
2021-05-17 11:44                 ` Greg KH

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