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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Add KUnit test for constraints accounting
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 11:10:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220722101053.GA18284@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+ZOXXqxhe4U3ZtQPCj2yrf6Qtjg1q0Kfq8+poAOxGgUew@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 11:20:25AM +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 11:10, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > [adding Will]
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 05:05:01PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote:
> > > > Add KUnit test for hw_breakpoint constraints accounting, with various
> > > > interesting mixes of breakpoint targets (some care was taken to catch
> > > > interesting corner cases via bug-injection).
> > > >
> > > > The test cannot be built as a module because it requires access to
> > > > hw_breakpoint_slots(), which is not inlinable or exported on all
> > > > architectures.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
> > >
> > > As mentioned on IRC, I'm seeing these tests fail on arm64 when applied atop
> > > v5.19-rc7:
> > >
> > > | TAP version 14
> > > | 1..1
> > > |     # Subtest: hw_breakpoint
> > > |     1..9
> > > |     ok 1 - test_one_cpu
> > > |     ok 2 - test_many_cpus
> > > |     # test_one_task_on_all_cpus: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > |     not ok 3 - test_one_task_on_all_cpus
> > > |     # test_two_tasks_on_all_cpus: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > |     not ok 4 - test_two_tasks_on_all_cpus
> > > |     # test_one_task_on_one_cpu: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > |     not ok 5 - test_one_task_on_one_cpu
> > > |     # test_one_task_mixed: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > |     not ok 6 - test_one_task_mixed
> > > |     # test_two_tasks_on_one_cpu: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > |     not ok 7 - test_two_tasks_on_one_cpu
> > > |     # test_two_tasks_on_one_all_cpus: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > |     not ok 8 - test_two_tasks_on_one_all_cpus
> > > |     # test_task_on_all_and_one_cpu: ASSERTION FAILED at kernel/events/hw_breakpoint_test.c:70
> > > |     Expected IS_ERR(bp) to be false, but is true
> > > |     not ok 9 - test_task_on_all_and_one_cpu
> > > | # hw_breakpoint: pass:2 fail:7 skip:0 total:9
> > > | # Totals: pass:2 fail:7 skip:0 total:9
> > >
> > > ... which seems to be becasue arm64 currently forbids per-task
> > > breakpoints/watchpoints in hw_breakpoint_arch_parse(), where we have:
> > >
> > >         /*
> > >          * Disallow per-task kernel breakpoints since these would
> > >          * complicate the stepping code.
> > >          */
> > >         if (hw->ctrl.privilege == AARCH64_BREAKPOINT_EL1 && bp->hw.target)
> > >                 return -EINVAL;
> > >
> > > ... which has been the case since day one in commit:
> > >
> > >   478fcb2cdb2351dc ("arm64: Debugging support")
> > >
> > > I'm not immediately sure what would be necessary to support per-task kernel
> > > breakpoints, but given a lot of that state is currently per-cpu, I imagine it's
> > > invasive.
> >
> > I would actually like to remove HW_BREAKPOINT completely for arm64 as it
> > doesn't really work and causes problems for other interfaces such as ptrace
> > and kgdb.
> 
> Will it be a localized removal of code that will be easy to revert in
> future? Or will it touch lots of code here and there?
> Let's say we come up with a very important use case for HW_BREAKPOINT
> and will need to make it work on arm64 as well in future.

My (rough) plan is to implement a lower-level abstraction for handling the
underlying hardware resources, so we can layer consumers on top of that
instead of funneling through hw_breakpoint. So if we figure out how to make
bits of hw_breakpoint work on arm64, then it should just go on top.

The main pain point for hw_breakpoint is kernel-side {break,watch}points
and I think there are open design questions about how they should work
on arm64, particularly when considering the interaction with user
watchpoints triggering on uaccess routines and the possibility of hitting
a kernel watchpoint in irq context.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-22 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-04 15:05 [PATCH v3 00/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Optimize for thousands of tasks Marco Elver
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Add KUnit test for constraints accounting Marco Elver
2022-07-04 15:10   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-07-20 15:22     ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-21 16:22   ` Mark Rutland
2022-07-22  9:10     ` Will Deacon
2022-07-22  9:20       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-07-22 10:10         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2022-07-22 10:31           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-07-22 11:03             ` Will Deacon
2022-07-22 13:41               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-07-25 11:00     ` Marco Elver
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Provide hw_breakpoint_is_used() and use in test Marco Elver
2022-07-04 15:09   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-07-20 15:22     ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Clean up headers Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:23   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Optimize list of per-task breakpoints Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:29   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-20 15:39     ` Marco Elver
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Mark data __ro_after_init Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:30   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Optimize constant number of breakpoint slots Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:31   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Make hw_breakpoint_weight() inlinable Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:32   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Remove useless code related to flexible breakpoints Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:34   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] powerpc/hw_breakpoint: Avoid relying on caller synchronization Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:35   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] locking/percpu-rwsem: Add percpu_is_write_locked() and percpu_is_read_locked() Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:36   ` Ian Rogers
2022-08-17 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-29  6:00     ` Marco Elver
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Reduce contention with large number of tasks Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:38   ` Ian Rogers
2022-08-17 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-17 13:14     ` Marco Elver
2022-08-29  8:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-29  9:38         ` Marco Elver
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Introduce bp_slots_histogram Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:40   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Optimize max_bp_pinned_slots() for CPU-independent task targets Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:42   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-04 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Optimize toggle_bp_slot() " Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:44   ` Ian Rogers
2022-07-12 13:39 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] perf/hw_breakpoint: Optimize for thousands of tasks Marco Elver
2022-07-20 15:47   ` Ian Rogers
2022-08-16 14:12     ` Marco Elver

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