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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@quicinc.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Pengfei Xu <pengfei.xu@intel.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] rcu-tasks: Fix synchronize_rcu_tasks() VS zap_pid_ns_processes()
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 23:54:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221202225428.GA1754872@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qpkqof8.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:37:15PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
> Two questions.
> 
> 1) Is there any chance you need the exit_task_rcu_stop() and
>    exit_tasks_rcu_start() around schedule in the part of this code that
>    calls kernel_wait4.

Indeed it could be relaxed there too if necessary.

> 
> 2) I keep thinking zap_pid_ns_processes() should be changed so that
>    after it sends SIGKILL to all of the relevant processes to not wait,
>    and instead have wait_consider_task simply not allow the 
>    init process of the pid namespace to be reaped.
> 
>    Am I right in thinking that such a change were to be made it would
>    make remove the deadlock without having to have any special code?
> 
>    It is just tricky enough to do that I don't want to discourage your
>    simpler change but this looks like a case that makes the pain of
>    changing zap_pid_ns_processes worthwhile in the practice.

So you mean it still reaps those that were EXIT_ZOMBIE before ignoring
SIGCHLD (the kernel_wait4() call) but it doesn't sleep anymore on those
that autoreap (or get reaped by a parent outside that namespace) after
ignoring SIGCHLD? Namely it doesn't do the schedule() loop I'm working
around here and proceeds with exit_notify() and notifies its parent?

And then in this case the responsibility of sleeping, until the init_process
of the namespace is the last task in the namespace, goes to the parent while
waiting that init_process, right?

But what if the init_process of the given namespace autoreaps? Should it then
wait itself until the namespace is empty? And then aren't we back to the initial
issue?

Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-02 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-25 13:54 [PATCH 0/3] rcu-tasks: Fix race against exiting pid_ns Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-25 13:54 ` [PATCH 1/3] rcu-tasks: Improve comments explaining tasks_rcu_exit_srcu purpose Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-25 13:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] rcu-tasks: Remove preemption disablement around srcu_read_[un]lock() calls Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-25 13:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] rcu-tasks: Fix synchronize_rcu_tasks() VS zap_pid_ns_processes() Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-30 18:37   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-12-02 19:51     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-02 22:54     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2022-12-02 23:28       ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-12-04  0:03         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-06 16:49     ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-12-07 14:34       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-07 20:01       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-07 20:39         ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-12-09 20:26           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-29  0:22 ` [PATCH 0/3] rcu-tasks: Fix race against exiting pid_ns Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-29  9:55   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-29 14:48     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-02 22:55       ` Frederic Weisbecker

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