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From: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: "Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
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	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Wolfram Sang" <wsa@kernel.org>,
	"Matti Vaittinen" <Matti.Vaittinen@fi.rohmeurope.com>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Rosin" <peda@axentia.se>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Michael Tretter" <m.tretter@pengutronix.de>,
	"Shawn Tu" <shawnx.tu@intel.com>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Mike Pagano" <mpagano@gentoo.org>,
	"Krzysztof Hałasa" <khalasa@piap.pl>,
	"Marek Vasut" <marex@denx.de>,
	"Luca Ceresoli" <luca@lucaceresoli.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/7] i2c: add I2C Address Translator (ATR) support
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 14:58:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230120145812.750e1fa2@booty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y8plCZ/27zy4J2Tk@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

Hi Laurent,

On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:55:21 +0200
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 02:00:56PM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 14:22:26 +0200 Tomi Valkeinen wrote:  
> > > On 19/01/2023 13:35, Luca Ceresoli wrote:  
> > > > On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:09:57 +0200 Tomi Valkeinen wrote:  
> > > >> On 19/01/2023 10:21, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> <snip>
> > > >>    
> > > >>>>>>> +void i2c_atr_set_driver_data(struct i2c_atr *atr, void *data)
> > > >>>>>>> +{
> > > >>>>>>> +	atr->priv = data;
> > > >>>>>>> +}
> > > >>>>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(i2c_atr_set_driver_data, I2C_ATR);
> > > >>>>>>> +
> > > >>>>>>> +void *i2c_atr_get_driver_data(struct i2c_atr *atr)
> > > >>>>>>> +{
> > > >>>>>>> +	return atr->priv;
> > > >>>>>>> +}
> > > >>>>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(i2c_atr_get_driver_data, I2C_ATR);    
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Just to be sure: Is it really _driver_ data and not _device instance_ data?    
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It is device instance data indeed. I don't remember why this got
> > > >>>>> changed, but in v3 it was i2c_atr_set_clientdata().    
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It's me who was and is against calling it clientdata due to possible
> > > >>>> confusion with i2c_set/get_clientdata() that is about *driver data*.
> > > >>>> I missed that time the fact that this is about device instance data.
> > > >>>> I dunno which name would be better in this case, i2c_atr_set/get_client_priv() ?    
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Not sure I'm following you here. The i2c_atr_set_clientdata() name was
> > > >>> given for similarity with i2c_set_clientdata(). The latter wraps
> > > >>> dev_set_drvdata(), which sets `struct device`->driver_data. There is
> > > >>> one driver_data per each `struct device` instance, not per each driver.
> > > >>> The same goes for i2c_atr_set_driver_data(): there is one priv pointer
> > > >>> per each `struct i2c_atr` instance.    
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm a bit confused. What is "driver data" and what is "device instance
> > > >> data"?
> > > >>
> > > >> This deals with the driver's private data, where the "driver" is the
> > > >> owner/creator of the i2c-atr. The i2c-atr itself doesn't have a device
> > > >> (it's kind of part of the owner's device), and there's no driver in
> > > >> i2c-atr.c
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't like "client" here, as it reminds me of i2c_client (especially
> > > >> as we're in i2c context).
> > > >>
> > > >> What about i2c_atr_set_user_data()? Or "owner_data"?    
> > > > 
> > > > Ah, only now I got the point Andy made initially about "client" not
> > > > being an appropriate word.
> > > > 
> > > > In i2c we have:
> > > > 
> > > >    i2c_set_clientdata(struct i2c_client *client, void *data)
> > > >            ^^^^^^~~~~            ^^^^^^                ~~~~
> > > > 
> > > > so "client" clearly makes sense there, now here.    
> > > 
> > > Isn't that also used by the i2c_client? A driver which handles an i2c 
> > > device is the "i2c client", in a sense?
> > >   
> > > > The same logic applied here would lead to:
> > > > 
> > > >    i2c_atr_set_atrdata(struct i2c_atr *atr, void *data)
> > > >                ^^^~~~~            ^^^             ~~~~
> > > > 
> > > > which makes sense but it is a ugly IMO.    
> > > 
> > > Here, I think, there's a bit of a difference to the i2c_client case, as 
> > > we have a separate component for the i2c-atr. Although I guess one can 
> > > argue that the top level driver is the ATR driver, as it handles the HW, 
> > > and i2c-atr.c is just a set of helpers, so... I don't know =).
> > >   
> > > > So I think i2c_atr_get_driver_data() in this v7 makes sense, it's to
> > > > set the data that the ATR driver instance needs.
> > > > 
> > > > This is coherent with logic in spi/spi.h:
> > > > 
> > > >    spi_set_drvdata(struct spi_device *spi, void *data)
> > > > 
> > > > except for the abbreviation ("_drvdata" vs "_driver_data").
> > > > 
> > > > Andy, Tomi, would i2c_atr_set_drvdata() be OK for you, just like SPI
> > > > does?    
> > > 
> > > Well, I'm good with the current i2c_atr_set_driver_data(). If all agrees 
> > > that it's "driver data", I'd rather keep it like that. I find this 
> > > "drvdata" style very odd. Why no underscore between drv and data? Why 
> > > abbreviate drv, it doesn't really help anything here?  
> > 
> > Agreed, I'm OK with either form of "driver data".  
> 
> Have you considered allowing drivers to embed i2c_atr in a larger
> structure, instead of forcing allocation through i2c_atr_new() ? Drivers
> could then use container_of() instead of the get/set driver/device data
> accessors.

Off the top of my head I don't see a good reason to not do it, and it
would be nice to have indeed.

For the sake of historical discussion, I guess I didn't do initially
just because my starting point was i2c-mux where allocation is dynamic.
But i2c_mux_alloc() also takes a 'int sizeof_priv' parameter to
allocate some extra space for private driver data. I don't love that
approach but it probably makes sense for mux devices which tend to be
very simple, not for the ATR where chips are definitely complex. Indeed
embedded i2c_atr in the larger driver-specific struct seems the best
option.

-- 
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-20 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18 12:40 [PATCH v7 0/7] i2c-atr and FPDLink Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] i2c: add I2C Address Translator (ATR) support Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 14:23   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-18 17:17     ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-18 17:39       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-19  8:21         ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-19 10:09           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 11:35             ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-19 12:22               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 13:00                 ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-20  9:55                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-20 13:58                     ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2023-01-19 12:39           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 13:08             ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-19 10:01     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20 15:58       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-20 16:00         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] dt-bindings: media: add TI DS90UB913 FPD-Link III Serializer Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] dt-bindings: media: add TI DS90UB953 " Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] dt-bindings: media: add TI DS90UB960 FPD-Link III Deserializer Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 23:24   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] media: i2c: add DS90UB960 driver Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 15:48   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-19 16:27     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 23:19       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-20 16:47       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-25 11:15         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-25 12:10           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-25 13:33             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-25 14:49               ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-25 15:14                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-25 15:27                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-26  8:41                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-26 10:21                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-26 10:51                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-27  8:24                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-27  9:15                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-02-08 15:10                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-02-09 10:54                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] media: i2c: add DS90UB913 driver Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20  0:03   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-20  7:04     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20  9:06       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] media: i2c: add DS90UB953 driver Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20  0:34   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-20  8:13     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20  9:23       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-18 16:01 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] i2c-atr and FPDLink Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-18 17:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 17:43     ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-19  8:43       ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-19 12:40         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 13:19           ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-20 16:00         ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-20 16:17           ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-20 16:20             ` Tomi Valkeinen

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