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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/7] mm: introduce mod_vm_flags_nolock and use it in untrack_pfn
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:32:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230126173245.cf3jcfw5s2a77s5v@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpHP6hQAWZr2exZEXOzLbMNU_c9qNNc7pa2NYAhYLe=EKQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 08:18:31AM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:47 AM Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 03:35:53PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > In cases when VMA flags are modified after VMA was isolated and mmap_lock
> > > was downgraded, flags modifications would result in an assertion because
> > > mmap write lock is not held.
> >
> > Add note that it's also used during exit when the locking of the VMAs
> > becomes irrelevant (mm users is 0, should be no VMA modifications taking
> > place other than zap).
> 
> Ack.
> 
> >
> > The typical naming pattern when a caller either knows it holds the necessary
> > lock or knows it does not matter is __mod_vm_flags()
> 
> Ok. It sounds less explicit but plenty of examples, so I'm fine with
> such rename. Will apply in the next version.
> 

It might be a personal thing. nolock to me is ambigious because it might
mean "lock is already held", "no lock is necessary" or "no lock is acquired"
where as *for me*, calling foo vs __foo *usually* means "direct callers of
__foo take care of the locking, memory ordering, per-cpu pinning details etc"
depending on the context. Of course, this convention is not universally true.

> > > Pass a hint to untrack_pfn to conditionally use mod_vm_flags_nolock for
> > > flags modification and to avoid assertion.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> >
> > Patch itself looks ok. It strays close to being "conditional locking"
> > though which might attract some complaints.
> 
> The description seems to accurately describe what's done here but I'm
> open to better suggestions.

I don't have alternative suggestions but if someone else reads the patch and
says "this is conditional locking", you can at least claim that someone
else considered "conditional locking" and didn't think it was a major
problem in this specific patch.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25 23:35 [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce vm_flags modifier functions Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-25 23:35 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] kernel/fork: convert vma assignment to a memcpy Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26  0:21   ` Andrew Morton
2023-01-26  0:50     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26  1:34       ` Andrew Morton
2023-01-26 11:52         ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-26 15:59           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26 17:27         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-07 17:16           ` Marco Elver
2023-02-07 17:23             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-02-07 17:51               ` Marco Elver
2023-01-25 23:35 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] mm: introduce vma->vm_flags wrapper functions Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26  0:24   ` Andrew Morton
2023-01-26  0:51     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26 17:48     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2023-01-26  0:28   ` Andrew Morton
2023-01-26  0:56     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26  7:59       ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26  8:33   ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26 13:58   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-26 16:01     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-25 23:35 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] mm: replace VM_LOCKED_CLEAR_MASK with VM_LOCKED_MASK Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26 13:59   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-26 14:16   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-25 23:35 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] mm: replace vma->vm_flags direct modifications with modifier calls Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26 15:10   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-26 16:10     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26 17:26       ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-26 17:28         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-25 23:35 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] mm: replace vma->vm_flags indirect modification in ksm_madvise Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26 15:19   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-26 16:11     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-25 23:35 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] mm: introduce mod_vm_flags_nolock and use it in untrack_pfn Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26  8:34   ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26 15:47   ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-26 16:18     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-26 17:32       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2023-01-26 17:34         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-01-25 23:35 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] mm: export dump_mm() Suren Baghdasaryan

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