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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@atomlin.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/13] fold per-CPU vmstats remotely
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:02:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230418150200.027528c155853fea8e4f58b2@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230320180332.102837832@redhat.com>

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 15:03:32 -0300 Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:

> This patch series addresses the following two problems:
> 
> 1. A customer provided evidence indicating that a process
>    was stalled in direct reclaim:
> 
> ...
>
>  2. With a task that busy loops on a given CPU,
>     the kworker interruption to execute vmstat_update
>     is undesired and may exceed latency thresholds
>     for certain applications.
> 

I don't think I'll be sending this upstream in the next merge window. 
Because it isn't clear that the added complexity in vmstat handling is
justified.

- Michal's request for more clarity on the end-user requirements
  seems reasonable.

- You have indicated that additional changelog material is forthcoming.

- The alternative idea of adding a syscall which tells the kernel
  "I'm about to go realtime, so please clear away all the pending crap
  which might later interrupt me" sounds pretty good.

  Partly because there are surely other places where we can use this.

  Partly because it moves all the crap-clearing into special
  crap-clearing code paths while adding less burden to the
  commonly-executed code.

  And I don't think this alternative has been fully investigated and
  discussed.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-18 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20 18:03 [PATCH v7 00/13] fold per-CPU vmstats remotely Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 01/13] vmstat: allow_direct_reclaim should use zone_page_state_snapshot Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:21   ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-20 18:32     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-22 10:03       ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 02/13] this_cpu_cmpxchg: ARM64: switch this_cpu_cmpxchg to locked, add _local function Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 03/13] this_cpu_cmpxchg: loongarch: " Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 04/13] this_cpu_cmpxchg: S390: " Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 05/13] this_cpu_cmpxchg: x86: " Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 06/13] add this_cpu_cmpxchg_local and asm-generic definitions Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 07/13] convert this_cpu_cmpxchg users to this_cpu_cmpxchg_local Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 08/13] mm/vmstat: switch counter modification to cmpxchg Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 09/13] vmstat: switch per-cpu vmstat counters to 32-bits Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 10/13] mm/vmstat: use xchg in cpu_vm_stats_fold Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 11/13] mm/vmstat: switch vmstat shepherd to flush per-CPU counters remotely Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 12/13] mm/vmstat: refresh stats remotely instead of via work item Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 13/13] vmstat: add pcp remote node draining via cpu_vm_stats_fold Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 20:43   ` Tim Chen
2023-03-22  1:20     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:25 ` [PATCH v7 00/13] fold per-CPU vmstats remotely Michal Hocko
2023-03-20 19:07   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-22 10:13     ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-22 11:23       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-22 13:35         ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-22 14:20           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-23  7:51             ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-23 10:52               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-23 10:59                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-23 12:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-23 13:30                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-23 13:32                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-18 22:02 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2023-04-19 11:14   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 11:15     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 13:44       ` Andrew Theurer
2023-04-20  7:55         ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-23  1:25           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 11:29     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 11:59       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 12:24         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-04-19 13:48           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 14:35             ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-19 16:35               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-20  8:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-23  1:10                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-20 13:45                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-26 14:34                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-27  8:31                     ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-27 14:59                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-26 15:04                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-04-26 16:10                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-27  8:39                       ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-27 16:25                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 16:47       ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-04-19 19:15         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-05-03 13:51           ` Marcelo Tosatti

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