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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: kan.liang@linux.intel.com
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	jolsa@kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org, irogers@google.com,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com, eranian@google.com,
	alexey.v.bayduraev@linux.intel.com, tinghao.zhang@intel.com,
	Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>,
	Athira Rajeev <atrajeev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 2/6] perf: Add branch stack extension
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 23:58:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230802215814.GH231007@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230522113040.2329924-2-kan.liang@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 04:30:36AM -0700, kan.liang@linux.intel.com wrote:
> From: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
> 
> Currently, the extra information of a branch entry is stored in a u64
> space. With more and more information added, the space is running out.
> For example, the information of occurrences of events will be added for
> each branch.
> 
> Add an extension space to record the new information for each branch
> entry. The space is appended after the struct perf_branch_stack.
> 
> Add a bit in struct perf_branch_entry to indicate whether the extra
> information is included.
> 
> Reviewed-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>
> Cc: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
> Cc: Athira Rajeev <atrajeev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> ---
> 
> New patch
> - Introduce a generic extension space which can be used to
>   store the LBR event information for Intel. It can also be used by
>   other ARCHs for the other purpose.
> - Add a new bit in struct perf_branch_entry to indicate whether the
>   extra information is included.

Bah.. I don't like this, also the actual format isn't clear to me.

The uapi part is severely lacking, it just adds the ext:1 thing, but
doesn't describe what if anything happens when it's set.

The internal perf_branch_stack_ext thing is just that, internal.
Additionally it contains a nr member, which seems to suggest it can be
different from the number of entries in the branch-stack itself -- which
would be odd indeed.

So we have an 'ext' bit per branch entry to indicate the existance of
this extra data, this again suggests no 1:1 correspondence, but at most
one extra entry per set bit.

Parsing this will be pretty horrible, no?

So what we have now is:

	{ u64			nr;
	  { u64 hw_idx; } && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_HW_INDEX
	  { u64 from, to, flags; } lbr[nr];
	} && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_STACK

and AFAICT you're doing:

	{ u64			nr;
	  { u64 hw_idx; } && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_HW_INDEX
	  { u64 from, to, flags; } lbr[nr];
+	  { u64	nr2;
+	    { u64 extra; } extra[nr2];
+         } && OR_i{lbr[i].flags.ext}
	} && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_STACK

Which is pretty horrific, no? The straight forward:

	{ u64			nr;
	  { u64 hw_idx; } && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_HW_INDEX
	  { u64 from, to, flags; } lbr[nr];
+	  { u64 extra; } ext[nr] && SOMETHING
	} && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_STACK

Or perhaps even:

	{ u64			nr;
	  { u64 hw_idx; } && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_HW_INDEX
	  { u64 from, to, flags; 
+	    u64 extra; && SOMETHING
	  } lbr[nr];
	} && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_STACK

With the obvious question what 'SOMETHING' should be. I suppose
PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_EXTRA was considered and discarded?

Implementing the last suggestion wouldn't even be too bad, since having
PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_EXTRA set, we know to allocate and cast the existing
perf_sample_data::br_stack to a convenient new type, something like:

struct perf_branch_entry_ext {
	__u64	from;
	__u64	to;
	__u64	mispred:1,  /* target mispredicted */
		predicted:1,/* target predicted */
		in_tx:1,    /* in transaction */
		abort:1,    /* transaction abort */
		cycles:16,  /* cycle count to last branch */
		type:4,     /* branch type */
		spec:2,     /* branch speculation info */
		new_type:4, /* additional branch type */
		priv:3,     /* privilege level */
		reserved:31;
	__u64	extra;
};

Except at that point I think I would suggest doing s/EXTRA/COUNTERS/g
and making it something like:

	union {
		__u64	counters;
		__u8 	c[8];
	};

Or something daft like that.

Wouldn't all that make *MUCH* more sense?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-02 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22 11:30 [PATCH V2 1/6] perf/x86/intel: Add Grand Ridge and Sierra Forest kan.liang
2023-05-22 11:30 ` [PATCH V2 2/6] perf: Add branch stack extension kan.liang
2023-05-23  6:03   ` Sandipan Das
2023-05-23 13:08     ` Liang, Kan
2023-08-02 21:58   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-08-03 14:22     ` Liang, Kan
2023-05-22 11:30 ` [PATCH V2 3/6] perf: Support branch events kan.liang
2023-05-22 11:30 ` [PATCH V2 4/6] perf/x86/intel: Support LBR event logging kan.liang
2023-05-22 11:30 ` [PATCH V2 5/6] tools headers UAPI: Sync include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h header with the kernel kan.liang
2023-05-22 11:30 ` [PATCH V2 6/6] perf tools: Add branch event knob kan.liang
2023-05-22 20:26 ` [PATCH V2 1/6] perf/x86/intel: Add Grand Ridge and Sierra Forest Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-22 20:42   ` Luck, Tony
2023-05-22 20:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-07 21:43   ` Luck, Tony
2023-06-08  7:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-08 16:20       ` Luck, Tony
2023-06-29 22:39         ` Tony Luck
2023-08-02 15:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 12:42 ` Liang, Kan
2023-06-06 13:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 16:16     ` Liang, Kan
2023-06-06 18:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 18:34         ` Liang, Kan
2023-06-06 19:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 19:54             ` Liang, Kan
2023-08-09 20:04 ` [tip: perf/core] perf/x86/intel: Add Crestmont PMU tip-bot2 for Kan Liang

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