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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
@ 2009-04-27  8:57 Martin Knoblauch
  2009-04-28 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 2009-04-27  8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List; +Cc: Kernel Testers List


----- Original Message ----

> From: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> To: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>; Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:18:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> 
> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki 
> > To: Linux Kernel Mailing List 
> > Cc: Kernel Testers List ; Martin Knoblauch 
> 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:46:31 AM
> > Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > 
> > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> > 
> > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> > be listed and let me know (either way).
> > 
> > 
> > Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> > Subject        : Booting very slow
> > Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> > Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (3 days old)
> > References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> 
> Not really sure whether this is a real regression. Between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 the 
> content of /proc/mounts for sysfs changed from
> 
> /sys /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> 
> to
> 
> none /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> 
> 
> This breaks RHEL-4.3 userland which parses /proc/mounts in the firmware hotplug 
> agent to find the mount-point for sysfs. As a result firmware loading started to 
> fail in 2.6.29. There is a simple fix in the /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent script 
> (just assume /sys as it is done elsewhere).
> 
> Your call.
> 
> Cheers
> Martin

 Actually I have to correct myself. The reason for the failure to parse /proc/mounts for "sysfs" is that there are two lines:

[hotplug]# uname -a
Linux lpsdm52 2.6.30-rc3-git2-nfs_ra #3 SMP Mon Apr 27 10:21:31 CEST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[hotplug]# grep sysfs /proc/mounts
none /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0
/sys /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0

 This breaks the "firmware.agent" /sys-parsing code. There still exists the simple fix to userspace, but I now think that this is a real regression that should be fixed.

Cheers
Martin

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-04-27  8:57 [Bug #13178] Booting very slow Martin Knoblauch
@ 2009-04-28 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-04-28 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Knoblauch; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List

On Monday 27 April 2009, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> 
> > From: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> > To: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>; Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:18:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > 
> > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki 
> > > To: Linux Kernel Mailing List 
> > > Cc: Kernel Testers List ; Martin Knoblauch 
> > 
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:46:31 AM
> > > Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > > 
> > > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > > of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> > > 
> > > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > > introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> > > be listed and let me know (either way).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> > > Subject        : Booting very slow
> > > Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> > > Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (3 days old)
> > > References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> > 
> > Not really sure whether this is a real regression. Between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 the 
> > content of /proc/mounts for sysfs changed from
> > 
> > /sys /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > none /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> > 
> > 
> > This breaks RHEL-4.3 userland which parses /proc/mounts in the firmware hotplug 
> > agent to find the mount-point for sysfs. As a result firmware loading started to 
> > fail in 2.6.29. There is a simple fix in the /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent script 
> > (just assume /sys as it is done elsewhere).
> > 
> > Your call.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Martin
> 
>  Actually I have to correct myself. The reason for the failure to parse /proc/mounts for "sysfs" is that there are two lines:
> 
> [hotplug]# uname -a
> Linux lpsdm52 2.6.30-rc3-git2-nfs_ra #3 SMP Mon Apr 27 10:21:31 CEST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> [hotplug]# grep sysfs /proc/mounts
> none /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0
> /sys /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0
> 
>  This breaks the "firmware.agent" /sys-parsing code. There still exists the simple fix to userspace, but I now think that this is a real regression that should be fixed.

Thanks for the update.

Rafael

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-06-08  8:46   ` Martin Knoblauch
@ 2009-06-08 11:12     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-06-08 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Knoblauch
  Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List, Jesse Barnes,
	Stephen Hemminger, James Owens

On Monday 08 June 2009, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> 
> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>; Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:06:22 PM
> > Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > 
> > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> > 
> > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> > be listed and let me know (either way).
> > 
> > 
> > Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> > Subject        : Booting very slow
> > Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> > Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (45 days old)
> > References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> 
>  No change since last ping. We ruled out a non-HP NIC in the DL380. HP will try to reproduce in-house.

Thanks a lot for the update.

Best,
Rafael

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-06-07 10:06 ` [Bug #13178] Booting very slow Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-06-08  8:46   ` Martin Knoblauch
  2009-06-08 11:12     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 2009-06-08  8:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List
  Cc: Kernel Testers List, Jesse Barnes, Stephen Hemminger, James Owens


----- Original Message ----

> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>; Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:06:22 PM
> Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> 
> This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> 
> The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> be listed and let me know (either way).
> 
> 
> Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> Subject        : Booting very slow
> Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (45 days old)
> References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4

 No change since last ping. We ruled out a non-HP NIC in the DL380. HP will try to reproduce in-house.

Martin


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* [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-06-07 10:02 2.6.30-rc8-git4: Reported regressions 2.6.28 -> 2.6.29 Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-06-07 10:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2009-06-08  8:46   ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-06-07 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel Mailing List
  Cc: Kernel Testers List, Jesse Barnes, Martin Knoblauch, Stephen Hemminger

This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.

The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
be listed and let me know (either way).


Bug-Entry	: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
Subject		: Booting very slow
Submitter	: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
Date		: 2009-04-24 12:45 (45 days old)
References	: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4



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* Re: [Bug 13178] Booting very slow
  2009-06-01  8:13   ` Martin Knoblauch
@ 2009-06-01 20:15     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-06-01 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Knoblauch
  Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List, Jesse Barnes,
	Stephen Hemminger

On Monday 01 June 2009, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> 
> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>; Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:55:37 PM
> > Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > 
> > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> > 
> > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> > be listed and let me know (either way).
> > 
> > 
> > Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> > Subject        : Booting very slow
> > Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> > Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (37 days old)
> > References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> 
>  We (HP and myself) are trying to track it down.

OK, thanks for the update.

Rafael

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-30 19:55 ` [Bug #13178] Booting very slow Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-06-01  8:13   ` Martin Knoblauch
  2009-06-01 20:15     ` [Bug 13178] " Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 2009-06-01  8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List
  Cc: Kernel Testers List, Jesse Barnes, Stephen Hemminger


----- Original Message ----

> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>; Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:55:37 PM
> Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> 
> This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> 
> The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> be listed and let me know (either way).
> 
> 
> Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> Subject        : Booting very slow
> Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (37 days old)
> References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4

 We (HP and myself) are trying to track it down.

Cheers
Martin


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* [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-30 19:50 2.6.30-rc7-git4: Reported regressions 2.6.28 -> 2.6.29 Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-05-30 19:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2009-06-01  8:13   ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-05-30 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel Mailing List
  Cc: Kernel Testers List, Jesse Barnes, Martin Knoblauch, Stephen Hemminger

This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.

The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
be listed and let me know (either way).


Bug-Entry	: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
Subject		: Booting very slow
Submitter	: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
Date		: 2009-04-24 12:45 (37 days old)
References	: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4



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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-27  6:32       ` Andrew Morton
@ 2009-05-27 19:48         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-05-27 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton
  Cc: Martin Knoblauch, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List,
	Stephen Hemminger, Jesse Barnes

On Wednesday 27 May 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:04:04 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> 
> > On Monday 25 May 2009, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > 
> > > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > > > To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > > > Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:31:18 PM
> > > > Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > > > 
> > > > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > > > of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> > > > 
> > > > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > > > introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> > > > be listed and let me know (either way).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> > > > Subject        : Booting very slow
> > > > Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> > > > Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (31 days old)
> > > > References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> > > 
> > >  Still happens with 2.6.30-rc7. But see my comment on bz. I would be willing to leave this as "fuzzy timing related problem.
> > 
> > OK
> > 
> > I've closed it as "unreproducible".
> > 
> 
> afacit this should remain open.  It's a reproducible regression on one
> of Martin's machines and it has been bisected down to a particular
> commit which quite clearly has the potential to increase device
> intialisation times by a lot.  Especially if that commit was buggy.

OK, reopened.

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-25 23:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-05-27  6:32       ` Andrew Morton
  2009-05-27 19:48         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2009-05-27  6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki
  Cc: Martin Knoblauch, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List,
	Stephen Hemminger, Jesse Barnes

On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:04:04 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:

> On Monday 25 May 2009, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > 
> > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > > To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:31:18 PM
> > > Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > > 
> > > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > > of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> > > 
> > > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > > introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> > > be listed and let me know (either way).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> > > Subject        : Booting very slow
> > > Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> > > Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (31 days old)
> > > References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> > 
> >  Still happens with 2.6.30-rc7. But see my comment on bz. I would be willing to leave this as "fuzzy timing related problem.
> 
> OK
> 
> I've closed it as "unreproducible".
> 

afacit this should remain open.  It's a reproducible regression on one
of Martin's machines and it has been bisected down to a particular
commit which quite clearly has the potential to increase device
intialisation times by a lot.  Especially if that commit was buggy.

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-25  8:37   ` Martin Knoblauch
@ 2009-05-25 23:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2009-05-27  6:32       ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-05-25 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Knoblauch; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List

On Monday 25 May 2009, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> 
> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:31:18 PM
> > Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > 
> > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> > 
> > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> > be listed and let me know (either way).
> > 
> > 
> > Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> > Subject        : Booting very slow
> > Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> > Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (31 days old)
> > References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> 
>  Still happens with 2.6.30-rc7. But see my comment on bz. I would be willing to leave this as "fuzzy timing related problem.

OK

I've closed it as "unreproducible".

Thanks,
Rafael

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-24 19:31 ` [Bug #13178] Booting very slow Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-05-25  8:37   ` Martin Knoblauch
  2009-05-25 23:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 2009-05-25  8:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List; +Cc: Kernel Testers List


----- Original Message ----

> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:31:18 PM
> Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> 
> This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> 
> The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> be listed and let me know (either way).
> 
> 
> Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> Subject        : Booting very slow
> Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (31 days old)
> References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4

 Still happens with 2.6.30-rc7. But see my comment on bz. I would be willing to leave this as "fuzzy timing related problem.

Cheers
Martin


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* [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-24 19:27 2.6.30-rc7: Reported regressions 2.6.28 -> 2.6.29 Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-05-24 19:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2009-05-25  8:37   ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-05-24 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel Mailing List; +Cc: Kernel Testers List, Martin Knoblauch

This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.

The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
be listed and let me know (either way).


Bug-Entry	: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
Subject		: Booting very slow
Submitter	: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
Date		: 2009-04-24 12:45 (31 days old)
References	: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4



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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-19  8:58         ` Kay Sievers
@ 2009-05-20 10:14           ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 2009-05-20 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kay Sievers
  Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List




 ------------------------------------------------------
Martin Knoblauch
email: k n o b i AT knobisoft DOT de
www:   http://www.knobisoft.de



----- Original Message ----
> From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
> To: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>; Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:58:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 09:22, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> >> >  The issue is still open. It turns out that starting with 2.6.29-rc1
> >> /proc/mounts already has a "sysfs" line when entering the startup scripts 
> from
> >> initrd. This breaks the RHEL4 firmware hotplug script.
> >>
> >> Is that possibly a missing/failing "umount /sys" _in_ initramfs, which
> >> leaves the sysfs entry in /proc/mounts behind, which then shows up as
> >> a duplicate when running in the real rootfs?
> >
> >  could be. Remains the question, why it never showed up before 2.6.29. I 
> compared my initrd images for 2.6.28 and 2.6.29-rc1, and they only differ in the 
> module-binaries.
> 
> I wouldn't be surprised if we are just "too fast" again now with the
> async stuff, for another piece of rather fragile userspace bootup
> logic, making some wrong assumptions. Are you compiling-in the modules
> for the root disk and the root filesystem?
> 
> Cheers,
> Kay

 timing may actually be the answer. I finally manged to bisect the thing and the first bad commit is this one:

|commit 1120f8b8169fb2cb51219d326892d963e762edb6
|Author: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
|Date:   Thu Dec 18 09:17:16 2008 -0800
|
|    PCI: handle long delays in VPD access
|
|    Accessing the VPD area can take a long time.  The existing
|    VPD access code fails consistently on my hardware. There are comments
|
|    Change the access routines to:
|      * use a mutex rather than spinning with IRQ's disabled and lock held
|      * have a much longer timeout
|      * call cond_resched while spinning
|
|    Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
|    Reviewed-by: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
|    Signed-off-by: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>

  And no, the "cciss", "ext3" and "jbd" are modules in my intrd image.

 I will continue the discussion under the original topic.

Cheers

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-19  7:22       ` Martin Knoblauch
@ 2009-05-19  8:58         ` Kay Sievers
  2009-05-20 10:14           ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Kay Sievers @ 2009-05-19  8:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Knoblauch
  Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 09:22, Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de> wrote:
>> >  The issue is still open. It turns out that starting with 2.6.29-rc1
>> /proc/mounts already has a "sysfs" line when entering the startup scripts from
>> initrd. This breaks the RHEL4 firmware hotplug script.
>>
>> Is that possibly a missing/failing "umount /sys" _in_ initramfs, which
>> leaves the sysfs entry in /proc/mounts behind, which then shows up as
>> a duplicate when running in the real rootfs?
>
>  could be. Remains the question, why it never showed up before 2.6.29. I compared my initrd images for 2.6.28 and 2.6.29-rc1, and they only differ in the module-binaries.

I wouldn't be surprised if we are just "too fast" again now with the
async stuff, for another piece of rather fragile userspace bootup
logic, making some wrong assumptions. Are you compiling-in the modules
for the root disk and the root filesystem?

Cheers,
Kay

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-19  0:26     ` Kay Sievers
@ 2009-05-19  7:22       ` Martin Knoblauch
  2009-05-19  8:58         ` Kay Sievers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 2009-05-19  7:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kay Sievers
  Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List


----- Original Message ----

> From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
> To: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>; Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:26:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> 
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:15, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> 
> >> Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> >> Subject        : Booting very slow
> >> Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch
> >> Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (23 days old)
> >> References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> >
> >  The issue is still open. It turns out that starting with 2.6.29-rc1 
> /proc/mounts already has a "sysfs" line when entering the startup scripts from 
> initrd. This breaks the RHEL4 firmware hotplug script.
> 
> Is that possibly a missing/failing "umount /sys" _in_ initramfs, which
> leaves the sysfs entry in /proc/mounts behind, which then shows up as
> a duplicate when running in the real rootfs?
> 

 could be. Remains the question, why it never showed up before 2.6.29. I compared my initrd images for 2.6.28 and 2.6.29-rc1, and they only differ in the module-binaries.

Cheers
Martin


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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-18  8:15   ` Martin Knoblauch
  2009-05-18 17:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-05-19  0:26     ` Kay Sievers
  2009-05-19  7:22       ` Martin Knoblauch
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Kay Sievers @ 2009-05-19  0:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Knoblauch
  Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:15, Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de> wrote:

>> Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
>> Subject        : Booting very slow
>> Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch
>> Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (23 days old)
>> References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
>
>  The issue is still open. It turns out that starting with 2.6.29-rc1 /proc/mounts already has a "sysfs" line when entering the startup scripts from initrd. This breaks the RHEL4 firmware hotplug script.

Is that possibly a missing/failing "umount /sys" _in_ initramfs, which
leaves the sysfs entry in /proc/mounts behind, which then shows up as
a duplicate when running in the real rootfs?

Thanks,
Kay

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-18  8:15   ` Martin Knoblauch
@ 2009-05-18 17:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2009-05-19  0:26     ` Kay Sievers
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-05-18 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Knoblauch; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, Kernel Testers List

On Monday 18 May 2009, Martin Knoblauch wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> 
> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:06:02 PM
> > Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> > 
> > This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> > of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> > 
> > The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> > introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> > be listed and let me know (either way).
> > 
> > 
> > Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> > Subject        : Booting very slow
> > Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> > Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (23 days old)
> > References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4
> 
>  The issue is still open. It turns out that starting with 2.6.29-rc1 /proc/mounts already has a "sysfs" line when entering the startup scripts from initrd. This breaks the RHEL4 firmware hotplug script.
> 
> Simple fix to user space is available. I do not know how important this issue is.
> 
> Anyway, I am in the process of bisecting the problem. It is just a bit tedious in the my customers and employers environment :-(

Thanks a lot for doing this.

Best,
Rafael

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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-16 20:06 ` [Bug #13178] Booting very slow Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-05-18  8:15   ` Martin Knoblauch
  2009-05-18 17:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2009-05-19  0:26     ` Kay Sievers
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 2009-05-18  8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List; +Cc: Kernel Testers List


----- Original Message ----

> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:06:02 PM
> Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> 
> This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> 
> The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> be listed and let me know (either way).
> 
> 
> Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> Subject        : Booting very slow
> Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (23 days old)
> References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4

 The issue is still open. It turns out that starting with 2.6.29-rc1 /proc/mounts already has a "sysfs" line when entering the startup scripts from initrd. This breaks the RHEL4 firmware hotplug script.

Simple fix to user space is available. I do not know how important this issue is.

Anyway, I am in the process of bisecting the problem. It is just a bit tedious in the my customers and employers environment :-(

Cheers
Martin


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* [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-05-16 19:58 2.6.30-rc6: Reported regressions 2.6.28 -> 2.6.29 Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-05-16 20:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2009-05-18  8:15   ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-05-16 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel Mailing List; +Cc: Kernel Testers List, Martin Knoblauch

This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.

The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
be listed and let me know (either way).


Bug-Entry	: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
Subject		: Booting very slow
Submitter	: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
Date		: 2009-04-24 12:45 (23 days old)
References	: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4



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* Re: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-04-26  9:46 ` [Bug #13178] Booting very slow Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-04-27  7:18   ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Martin Knoblauch @ 2009-04-27  7:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki, Linux Kernel Mailing List; +Cc: Kernel Testers List


----- Original Message ----

> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>; Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:46:31 AM
> Subject: [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
> 
> This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
> of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.
> 
> The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
> introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
> be listed and let me know (either way).
> 
> 
> Bug-Entry    : http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
> Subject        : Booting very slow
> Submitter    : Martin Knoblauch 
> Date        : 2009-04-24 12:45 (3 days old)
> References    : http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4

 Not really sure whether this is a real regression. Between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 the content of /proc/mounts for sysfs changed from

/sys /sys sysfs rw 0 0

to

none /sys sysfs rw 0 0


 This breaks RHEL-4.3 userland which parses /proc/mounts in the firmware hotplug agent to find the mount-point for sysfs. As a result firmware loading started to fail in 2.6.29. There is a simple fix in the /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent script (just assume /sys as it is done elsewhere).

 Your call.

Cheers
Martin

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* [Bug #13178] Booting very slow
  2009-04-26  9:42 2.6.30-rc3-git1: Reported regressions 2.6.28 -> 2.6.29 Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2009-04-26  9:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  2009-04-27  7:18   ` Martin Knoblauch
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2009-04-26  9:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel Mailing List; +Cc: Kernel Testers List, Martin Knoblauch

This message has been generated automatically as a part of a report
of regressions introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.

The following bug entry is on the current list of known regressions
introduced between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29.  Please verify if it still should
be listed and let me know (either way).


Bug-Entry	: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13178
Subject		: Booting very slow
Submitter	: Martin Knoblauch <spamtrap@knobisoft.de>
Date		: 2009-04-24 12:45 (3 days old)
References	: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=124057716231773&w=4



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2009-05-19  0:26     ` Kay Sievers
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2009-05-19  8:58         ` Kay Sievers
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