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From: "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@gmail.com>,
	"ebiggers@google.com" <ebiggers@google.com>,
	"herbert@gondor.apana.org.au" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"luto@kernel.org" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jpoimboe@redhat.com" <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	"jannh@google.com" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Perla, Enrico" <enrico.perla@intel.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: randomize kernel stack offset upon syscall
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 08:07:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2236FBA76BA1254E88B949DDB74E612BA4C6C229@IRSMSX102.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <737d5027067b405298167a8d463a3f0b@AcuMS.aculab.com>

> From: Reshetova, Elena
> > Sent: 30 April 2019 18:51
> ...
> > I guess this is true, so I did a quick implementation now to estimate the
> > performance hits.
> > Here are the preliminary numbers (proper ones will take a bit more time):
> >
> > base: Simple syscall: 0.1761 microseconds
> > get_random_bytes (4096 bytes per-cpu buffer): 0.1793 microsecons
> > get_random_bytes (64 bytes per-cpu buffer): 0.1866 microsecons
> >
> > It does not make sense to go less than 64 bytes since this seems to be
> > Chacha20 block size, so if we go lower, we will trash useful bits.
> > You can go even higher than 4096 bytes, but even this looks like
> > okish performance to me.
> >
> > Below is a snip of what I quickly did (relevant parts) to get these numbers.
> > I do initial population of per-cpu buffers in late_initcall, but
> > practice shows that rng might not always be in good state by then.
> > So, we might not have really good randomness then, but I am not sure
> > if this is a practical problem since it only applies to system boot and by
> > the time it booted, it already issued enough syscalls that buffer gets refilled
> > with really good numbers.
> > Alternatively we can also do it on the first syscall that each cpu gets, but I
> > am not sure if that is always guaranteed to have a good randomness.
> ...
> > +unsigned char random_get_byte(void)
> > +{
> > +    struct rnd_buffer *buffer = &get_cpu_var(stack_rand_offset);
> > +    unsigned char res;
> > +
> > +    if (buffer->byte_counter >= RANDOM_BUFFER_SIZE) {
> > +        get_random_bytes(&(buffer->buffer), sizeof(buffer->buffer));
> > +        buffer->byte_counter = 0;
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    res = buffer->buffer[buffer->byte_counter];
> > +    buffer->buffer[buffer->byte_counter] = 0;
> > +    buffer->byte_counter ++;
> > +     put_cpu_var(stack_rand_offset);
> > +    return res;
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(random_get_byte);
> 
> You'll almost certainly get better code if you copy buffer->byte_counter
> to a local 'unsigned long' variable.
> 

Noted, will fix, thank you for the suggestion!

I haven't yet worked on this code for a "proper version", so I think many
things would need polishing for both speed and code size. 

Best Regards,
Elena.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-02  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-15  6:09 [PATCH] x86/entry/64: randomize kernel stack offset upon syscall Elena Reshetova
2019-04-15  7:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-15  8:44   ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-16  7:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-16 11:10       ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-16 12:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 12:45           ` David Laight
2019-04-16 15:43             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-04-16 16:07               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-16 16:47               ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-17  9:28                 ` David Laight
2019-04-17 15:15                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-04-17 15:40                     ` Kees Cook
2019-04-17 15:53                     ` David Laight
2019-04-24 11:42                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-24 13:33                         ` David Laight
2019-04-25 11:23                           ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-26 11:33                         ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-26 14:01                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-04-26 17:44                             ` Eric Biggers
2019-04-26 18:02                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-04-27 13:59                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29  8:04                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-26 18:34                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-29  7:46                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-29 16:08                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-30 17:51                                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-30 18:01                                     ` Kees Cook
2019-05-01  8:23                                     ` David Laight
2019-05-02  8:07                                       ` Reshetova, Elena [this message]
2019-05-01  8:41                                     ` David Laight
2019-05-01 23:33                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-02  8:15                                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-02  9:23                                         ` David Laight
2019-05-02 14:47                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-02 15:08                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-02 16:32                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-02 16:43                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-03 16:40                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-02 16:34                                               ` David Laight
2019-05-02 16:45                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-03 16:17                                                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-03 16:40                                                     ` David Laight
2019-05-03 19:10                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-06  6:47                                                         ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-06  7:01                                                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-08 11:18                                                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-08 11:32                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-08 13:22                                                           ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-09  5:59                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-09  7:01                                                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-09  8:43                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-11 22:45                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-12  0:12                                                                     ` Kees Cook
2019-05-12  8:02                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2019-05-12 14:33                                                                         ` Kees Cook
2019-05-28 12:28                                                                           ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-28 13:33                                                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-29 10:13                                                                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-29 10:51                                                                                 ` David Laight
2019-05-29 18:35                                                                                 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-29 18:37                                                                                 ` Kees Cook
2019-07-29 11:41                                                                                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-07-30 18:07                                                                                     ` Kees Cook
2019-08-01  6:35                                                                                     ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-09  7:03                                                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-05-06  7:32                                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-29  7:49                             ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-26 17:37                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-04-17  6:24               ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-16 18:19           ` Reshetova, Elena
     [not found] <20190408061358.21288-1-elena.reshetova@intel.com>
2019-04-08 12:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-04-08 13:30   ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-08 16:21     ` Kees Cook
2019-04-10  8:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-10  9:00     ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-10 10:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-10 10:24       ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-10 14:52         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-04-12  5:36           ` Reshetova, Elena
2019-04-12 21:16             ` Andy Lutomirski

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