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From: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Cc: "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@gmail.com>,
	marcelo.cerri@canonical.com, tim.gardner@canonical.com,
	khalid.elmously@canonical.com, philip.cox@canonical.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 5/5] x86/tdx: Add Quote generation support
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 11:32:48 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23e5ea743cba1359ebf8932600266ff6a650a150.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3808510-9974-258e-0c7b-9a76e0868d48@intel.com>

On Thu, 2022-07-21 at 09:08 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/8/22 19:52, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
> > For shared buffer allocation, alternatives like using the DMA API is
> > also considered. Although it simpler to use, it is not preferred because
> > dma_alloc_*() APIs require a valid bus device as argument, which would
> > need converting the attestation driver into a platform device driver.
> > This is unnecessary, and since the attestation driver does not do real
> > DMA, there is no need to use real DMA APIs.
> 
> Let's actually try to walk through the requirements for the memory
> allocation here.
> 
>  1. The guest kernel needs to allocate some guest physical memory
>     for the attestation data buffer
>  2. The guest physical memory must be mapped by the guest so that
>     it can be read/written.
>  3. The guest mapping must be a "TDX Shared" mapping.  Since all
>     guest physical memory is "TDX Private" by default, something
>     must convert the memory from Private->Shared.
>  4. If there are alias mappings with "TDX Private" page table
>     permissions, those mappings must never be used while the page is
>     in its shared state.
>     4a. load_unaligned_zeropad() must be prevented from being used
> 	on the page immediately preceding a Private alias to a Shared
>  	page.
>  5. Actions that increasingly fracture the direct map must be avoided.
>     Attestation may happen many times and repeated allocations that
>     fracture the direct map have performance consequences.
>  6. A softer requirement: presuming that bounce buffers won't be used
>     for TDX devices *forever*, it would be nice to use a mechanism that
>     will continue to work on systems that don't have swiotlb on.
> 
> I think we've talked about three different solutions:
> 
> == vmalloc() ==
> 
> So, let's say we used a relatively plain vmalloc().  That's great for
> #1->#3 as long as the vmalloc() mapping gets the "TDX Shared" bit set
> properly on its PTEs.  But, it falls over for *either* #4 or #5.  If it
> leaves the direct map alone, it's exposed to load_unaligned_zeropad().
> If it unmaps the memory from the direct map, it runs afoul of #5.
> 
> == order-1 + vmap() ==
> 
> Let's now consider a vmalloc() variant: allocate a bunch of order-1
> pages and vmap() page[1], leaving page[0] as a guard page against
> load_unaligned_zeropad() on the direct map.  That works, but it's an
> annoying amount of code.
> 
> == swiotlb pages ==
> 
> Using the swiotlb bounce buffer pages is the other proposed option.
> They already have a working kernel mapping and have already been
> converted.  They are mitigated against load_unaligned_zeropad().  They
> do cause direct map fracturing, but only once since they're allocated
> statically.  They don't increasingly degrade things.  It's a one-time
> cost.  Their interaction with #6 is not great.
> 
> Did I miss anything?  Does that accurately capture where we are?

We can also reserve a dedicated CMA, but Kirill didn't like it.

-- 
Thanks,
-Kai



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-21 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09  2:52 [PATCH v8 0/5] Add TDX Guest Attestation support Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] x86/tdx: Add TDX Guest attestation interface driver Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-24 16:51   ` Dave Hansen
2022-06-27 14:50     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-27 17:24       ` Dave Hansen
2022-06-30 23:50         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-05 12:07           ` Kai Huang
2022-07-05 18:45             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-05 18:52               ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-05 21:21                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-05 22:31                   ` Kai Huang
2022-07-06 22:27                     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-06 22:59                       ` Kai Huang
2022-07-18 22:52                       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] x86/tdx: Add TDX Guest event notify interrupt support Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-20 12:33   ` Kai Huang
2022-06-20 15:44     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-23  9:46       ` Kai Huang
2022-06-23 10:24       ` Kai Huang
2022-06-24 22:23       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-24 23:41       ` Nakajima, Jun
2022-06-25  3:35         ` Yao, Jiewen
2022-06-27 11:21           ` Kai Huang
2022-06-27 14:56             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-14  0:46             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-14 10:42               ` Kai Huang
2022-07-14 20:55                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-14 23:58                   ` Kai Huang
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] x86/mm: Make tdx_enc_status_changed() vmalloc address compatible Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] x86/mm: Add noalias variants of set_memory_*crypted() functions Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-24 13:19   ` Dave Hansen
2022-06-27 15:12     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-06-27 18:24       ` Dave Hansen
2022-06-28  1:15         ` Kai Huang
2022-07-05 15:29           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-18 14:22             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-19 16:13               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-19 17:10                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-19 21:55                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-20 14:56                     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-20 16:17                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-20 16:58                         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] x86/tdx: Add Quote generation support Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-14 12:30   ` Wander Lairson Costa
2022-06-14 12:58     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 16:08   ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 16:42     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 16:49       ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 16:54         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 17:02           ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 17:16             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 17:19               ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 18:31                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 18:42                 ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-07-21 18:52                   ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 18:57                     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 19:23                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 22:08                         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 23:16                         ` Kai Huang
2022-07-21 23:32     ` Kai Huang [this message]
2022-07-22  0:27   ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-22 19:05     ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-07-22 19:13       ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-22 21:18         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-22 21:24           ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-25 20:19           ` Nakajima, Jun
2022-07-25 20:23             ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-25 21:56               ` Nakajima, Jun
2022-07-25 22:06                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-08-09  6:20               ` Guorui Yu
2022-11-21  2:04                 ` Guorui Yu
2022-11-21  2:26                   ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-07  0:58                     ` Erdem Aktas
2022-07-25 11:05         ` Kai Huang
2022-06-24 18:24 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] Add TDX Guest Attestation support Dave Hansen
2022-06-27 14:51   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-27 18:51     ` Dave Hansen

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