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From: Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Guorui Yu <GuoRui.Yu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	ak@linux.intel.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, isaku.yamahata@gmail.com, jun.nakajima@intel.com,
	kai.huang@intel.com, khalid.elmously@canonical.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	marcelo.cerri@canonical.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	philip.cox@canonical.com,
	sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	tim.gardner@canonical.com, tony.luck@intel.com,
	wander@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org, "Du, Fan" <fan.du@intel.com>,
	Chong Cai <chongc@google.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 5/5] x86/tdx: Add Quote generation support
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 16:58:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAYXXYxxs2zy_978GJDwKfX5Hud503gPc8=1kQ-+JwG_kA79mg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b8f415f-1a29-5c0c-1373-3b08aba735e6@intel.com>

I apologize for bumping an old thread up and getting in the discussion
this late.

Bumping this thread because as Chong mentioned below, it is essential
for us to have TDG.VP.VMCALL<GetQuote> interface as we do not
enable/support virtio in many use cases.
Coming from the  "Add TDX Guest Attestation support patch set [1]"
which does not have the Quote support as per Dave's review suggestion,
I am looking for what our options are here.

@Hansen, Dave  : as far as I understand your concerns were:

>>Do we *REALLY* need specific driver functionality for this? For
>>instance, is there no existing virtio device that can send blobs back and forth?

As Chong and I said, we have to have a vsock alternative solution if
we want to provide TDX based products for our customers. Otherwise it
will really limit our ability to adopt this technology.

>> You're basically saying that every confidential computing technology
>> should have its own host user <-> guest kernel <-> guest user ABI.
>> That's insanity.  If we do this, we need *one* interface that says "talk
>> to the hypervisor" that's common for all hypervisors and hardware
>> vendors, or at least more than *one*.

This is already happening, right? AMD has GHCB ABI while intel has
GHCI. Also there is already a guest driver and IOCTL interface for
TDREPORT, so would it be really that insane to have another IOCTL
interface for GetQuote?

I would like to get your opinion on how we can progress on this?

-Erdem

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221116223820.819090-1-sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com/t/#m341e6475982318d74be160c09a1856ad87e184cf

> From: Chong Cai <chongc@google.com>
> Date: Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 5/5] x86/tdx: Add Quote generation support
> To: Nakajima, Jun <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
> Cc: <ak@linux.intel.com>, <bp@alien8.de>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>, <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <hpa@zytor.com>, <isaku.yamahata@gmail.com>, <kai.huang@intel.com>, <khalid.elmously@canonical.com>, <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <marcelo.cerri@canonical.com>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <philip.cox@canonical.com>, <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>, <tglx@linutronix.de>, <tim.gardner@canonical.com>, <tony.luck@intel.com>, <wander@redhat.com>, <x86@kernel.org>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> Sorry for being late in the discussion.
>
>
> We just want to add that we have use cases where virtio/vsock is not supported at all; therefore, getquote TDVMCALL support is required for us to adopt this technology.
>
>
> Is there anything we can help here?
>
>


On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 6:26 PM Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/20/22 18:04, Guorui Yu wrote:
> > Kindly ping for any comments here?
>
> No comments from me!
>
> Seriously, this is from June.  I honestly have no idea what this patch
> is for or why you're asking about it.  If it were  important, I would
> have expected a new post with a new cover letter telling me some time in
> the past 5-6 months.
>
> Oh, and btw, I haven't seen you reviewing any other x86 submissions
> during that past 5-6 months either.  I'm tend to be more likely to bump
> things up near the front of the queue for folks that are helping to keep
> the queue short and manageable.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-07  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09  2:52 [PATCH v8 0/5] Add TDX Guest Attestation support Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] x86/tdx: Add TDX Guest attestation interface driver Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-24 16:51   ` Dave Hansen
2022-06-27 14:50     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-27 17:24       ` Dave Hansen
2022-06-30 23:50         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-05 12:07           ` Kai Huang
2022-07-05 18:45             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-05 18:52               ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-05 21:21                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-05 22:31                   ` Kai Huang
2022-07-06 22:27                     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-06 22:59                       ` Kai Huang
2022-07-18 22:52                       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] x86/tdx: Add TDX Guest event notify interrupt support Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-20 12:33   ` Kai Huang
2022-06-20 15:44     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-23  9:46       ` Kai Huang
2022-06-23 10:24       ` Kai Huang
2022-06-24 22:23       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-24 23:41       ` Nakajima, Jun
2022-06-25  3:35         ` Yao, Jiewen
2022-06-27 11:21           ` Kai Huang
2022-06-27 14:56             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-14  0:46             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-14 10:42               ` Kai Huang
2022-07-14 20:55                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-14 23:58                   ` Kai Huang
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] x86/mm: Make tdx_enc_status_changed() vmalloc address compatible Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] x86/mm: Add noalias variants of set_memory_*crypted() functions Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-24 13:19   ` Dave Hansen
2022-06-27 15:12     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-06-27 18:24       ` Dave Hansen
2022-06-28  1:15         ` Kai Huang
2022-07-05 15:29           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-18 14:22             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-19 16:13               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-19 17:10                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-19 21:55                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-20 14:56                     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-20 16:17                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-07-20 16:58                         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-09  2:52 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] x86/tdx: Add Quote generation support Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2022-06-14 12:30   ` Wander Lairson Costa
2022-06-14 12:58     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 16:08   ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 16:42     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 16:49       ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 16:54         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 17:02           ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 17:16             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 17:19               ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 18:31                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 18:42                 ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-07-21 18:52                   ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 18:57                     ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 19:23                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-21 22:08                         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-21 23:16                         ` Kai Huang
2022-07-21 23:32     ` Kai Huang
2022-07-22  0:27   ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-22 19:05     ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-07-22 19:13       ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-22 21:18         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-07-22 21:24           ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-25 20:19           ` Nakajima, Jun
2022-07-25 20:23             ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-25 21:56               ` Nakajima, Jun
2022-07-25 22:06                 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-08-09  6:20               ` Guorui Yu
2022-11-21  2:04                 ` Guorui Yu
2022-11-21  2:26                   ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-07  0:58                     ` Erdem Aktas [this message]
2022-07-25 11:05         ` Kai Huang
2022-06-24 18:24 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] Add TDX Guest Attestation support Dave Hansen
2022-06-27 14:51   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-06-27 18:51     ` Dave Hansen

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