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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] mm: Add PG_zero support
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 09:43:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25f0bab2-439e-9f78-8637-d4f7cac714cc@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200413094714.432b5841@w520.home>

On 4/13/20 8:47 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:
>> You can delay pinning until the device is actually used.  That should be
>> late enough for the host to figure out whether a paravirtualized IOMMU
>> is in place.
> So the guest enables the bus master bit in the command register and at
> that point we'd stall the VM for an indeterminate length of time while
> we potentially pin all memory, and hope that both the user and the host
> has the resources to account and allocate that memory, otherwise the
> VM suddenly crashes?  All of this potentially taking place in the
> pre-boot environment to support option ROMs as well.  A delay starting
> the VM seems a lot more predictable.  Thanks,

BTW, there are a million ways to speed up VM startup without both
complicating the core VM *and* slowing down everybody that gets a
speedup from cache-hot pages coming out of the allocator.

Use ramfs or hugetlbfs files.  Have a bunch of them sitting around,
preallocated (and zeroed) and dole them out as VMs start up.

Instead of complicating the core VM, do the pre-zeroing in hugetlbfs.
Zeroing at the time the pages get added to the pool wouldn't be the
worst thing and wouldn't touch the core VM.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-13 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-12  9:07 [RFC PATCH 0/4] mm: Add PG_zero support liliangleo
2020-04-13  1:43 ` Dave Hansen
2020-04-13 14:49   ` Alex Williamson
2020-04-13 15:14     ` Dave Hansen
2020-04-13 15:25       ` Raj, Ashok
2020-04-13 15:47       ` Alex Williamson
2020-04-13 16:43         ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2020-04-14 12:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-04-14 15:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-04-14 15:40     ` Daniel Jordan
2020-04-14 15:44     ` David Hildenbrand

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